christian lifestyle

[rocala]

beggars existed in the past and they were treated humanely.

Again - A wild totally unsubstantiated remark. So there was a time when all beggars in the world were cared for? Has it not occurred to you that if there was such a system, beggars would probably never have existed.

 

[savagewind]

Nah. you'd become homeless and hungry true christian.

That, I know is sarcasm because you have said that anyone calling themselves Christian is Christian.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

communism.

Communism just for Christians or for everyone?

There are plenty of examples of like-minded Christians setting up communes for themselves. Take the Hutterites, for instance. Or the Shakers. A determined group of Christians could do this today.

 

[ChristineM]

That, I know is sarcasm because you have said that anyone calling themselves Christian is Christian.

Nope, that is fact, without money (or as it is called on this thread, the antichrist); you would soon be homeless and unable to afford food. And of course, you area Christian, as you keep telling anyone who will listen

 

[Woberts]

If anything, it would be certain minority religions that cannot live their religious lifestyle. For example, the Humanist chaplain that was denied entrance into the Chaplain Corps even though the Navy recognizes Humanism as a religion. Or Muslims. I don't think I have to explain that one.

 

[syo]

Communism just for Christians or for everyone?

There are plenty of examples of like-minded Christians setting up communes for themselves. Take the Hutterites, for instance. Or the Shakers. A determined group of Christians could do this today.

just for christians. and it would be open to anyone willing to join.

like what the first christians did.

 

[savagewind]

Nope, that is fact, without money (or as it is called on this thread, the antichrist); you would soon be homeless and unable to afford food. And of course, you area Christian, as you keep telling anyone who will listen

If everyone is a Christian who says they are then there aren't any false Christians so there aren't any true ones. Just plain Christians.

You said:

Nah. you'd become homeless and hungry true christian.

 

[Woberts]

I think when you get right down to it, it's about Christianity vs secular humanism in regards to lifestyle, religion, politics:
"Summary
An overarching theme given to the world by Christianity is the equality of human beings, and the preciousness and worth of every human life. As put by D'Souza, "This Christian idea was the propelling force behind the campaign to end slavery, the movement for democracy and popular self-government, and also the successful attempt to articulate an international doctrine of human rights. My celebration of Christianity's role in shaping these great social changes comes with a sober corollary: if the West gives up Christianity, it will also endanger the egalitarian values that Christianity brought into the world. The end of Christianity also means the systematic erosion of values like equal dignity and equal rights that both religious and secular people cherish." If securarlism continues to gain, so will the restoration of infanticide, demands for the radical redefinition of the family, the revival of eugenic theories of human superiority, the suppression of freedoms of religion and expression, etc., as well as political tyranny."

Lol. Nice right wing propaganda. Because Christianity is the only thing standing between Humanists and Eugenics, right? And If we get rid of Christianity, then people will have less religious freedoms? How is this possible, when Christians are 9/10 times the ones saying "Put the 10 commandments in our schools! The FFRF is trying to take away our religious freedoms! Muslims are all terrorists!" Maybe you should look at the Netherlands. They are one of the least religious countries in the world, and the Netherlads are doing fine. Another suggestion, maybe back up your statements with a source.

 

[syo]

Again - A wild totally unsustantiated remark. So there was a time when all beggars in the world were cared for? Has it not occurred to you that if there was such a system, beggars would probably never existed.

I'm just saying that back then they treated beggars well. an example would be ancient greece. here is an article The peculiar place of beggars in ancient Hellenic society | Baring the Aegis

 

[ChristineM]

If everyone is a Christian who says they are then there aren't any false Christians so there aren't any true ones. Just plain Christians.

You said:

So you are arguing about semantics ? Are you saying christians are not true christians?

Ahh yes i remember now, you are the one who denies christianity to those christians you dont like

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

just for christians. and it would be open to anyone willing to join.

like what the first christians did.

Okay.

So what's stopping you and a group of like-minded Christians from doing that now?

 

[savagewind]

So you are arguing about semantics ? Are you saying christians are not true christians?

Ahh yes i remember now, you are the one who denies christianity to those christians you dont like

Cute.

 

[rocala]

I'm just saying that back then they treated beggars well. an example would be ancient greece. here is an article The peculiar place of beggars in ancient Hellenic society | Baring the Aegis

So there is the problem, Ancient Greece was a small part of the world and existed for a limited time period only. Hardly what you are claiming. I would have thought the term 'peculiar' would have alerted you to your error.

 

[syo]

Okay.

So what's stopping you and a group of like-minded Christians from doing that now?

personally? most people I know loathe religion, that is why I joined this forum to talk about religion. plus I'm an orthodox and if I started a community I'd risk that it would be heretic.

 

[syo]

So there is the problem, Ancient Greece was a small part of the world and existed for a limited time period only. Hardly what you are claiming. I would have thought the term 'peculiar' would have alerted you to your error.

then maybe the majority didn't treat the poor well.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

personally? most people I know loathe religion, that is why I joined this forum to talk about religion. plus I'm an orthodox and if I started a community I'd risk that it would be heretic.

So the reasons you don't live the way you want with a group of other Christians are:

- you don't know many Christians.
- you're afraid that other Christians would consider you a heretic.

I'm not sure what "society" has to do with either of those. For the first one: other people are free not to be Christian just as you're free to be Christian. For the second: that seems to be a problem between you and other Christians, not with larger society.

 

[God's Avatars]

today's society doesn't allow people to have a christian lifestyle. today's society divides people and makes people lonely. society is ruled by the antichrist and, if someone chooses to live in accordance with the teachings of Christ, society will reject them.

There are a host of historical reason why people have become more concerned, cautious, and perhaps even afraid to claim an Abrahamic religion. This book details many of those pitfalls and should be read by anyone who shared the concerns in expressed in the Forum Topic.
https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Avatars...&qid=1418144491&sr=1-3&keywords=God's+Avatars

 

[Srivijaya]

today's society doesn't allow people to have a christian lifestyle.

Of course it does. Just ask those early Christians who got thrown to the lions whether Christians nowadays have it easy or not.

today's society divides people and makes people lonely.

Wholeheartedly agree with that. A big issue with many causes. Could be a monster thread in its own right.

society is ruled by the antichrist and, if someone chooses to live in accordance with the teachings of Christ, society will reject them.

See my first response.

 

[syo]

So the reasons you don't live the way you want with a group of other Christians are:

- you don't know many Christians.
- you're afraid that other Christians would consider you a heretic.

I'm not sure what "society" has to do with either of those. For the first one: other people are free not to be Christian just as you're free to be Christian. For the second: that seems to be a problem between you and other Christians, not with larger society.

yes, the main problem is among other christians. I just don't understand. the majority in western countries is christians, then why don't christians act like jesus and eliminate poverty?

 

[rocala]

then maybe the majority didn't treat the poor well.

Yes, I think that has been true for most places most of the time.