christian lifestyle

[Naama]

today's society doesn't allow people to have a christian lifestyle. today's society divides people and makes people lonely. society is ruled by the antichrist and, if someone chooses to live in accordance with the teachings of Christ, society will reject them.

Why do you think that?

Who is the anti-christ? Is that a Christian thing?

 

[QuestioningMind]

christians are supposed to see other people as brothers. our society wants people to exploit other people so to make money.

There may be a segment of society that wants to exploit people, but I hardly think that society 'rejects' people who see others as brothers and sisters.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

yes, the main problem is among other christians. I just don't understand. the majority in western countries is christians, then why don't christians act like jesus and eliminate poverty?

Jesus didn’t eliminate poverty either.

 

[SomeRandom]

I was thinking mainly of how some people will freak out if supermarket cashiers will say "happy holidays" instead of "merry Christmas" or freak out if their town puts up a big display in December that says "seasons greetings" instead of "merry Christmas!" They've got the people around them celebrating their holiday, but if those people don't explicitly state that the holiday is for Christians and nobody else, the core group of Christians throws a fit.

Oh I worked in a supermarket. We're trained to not say Merry Christmas to customers unless they say it first.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Oh I worked in a supermarket. We're trained to not say Merry Christmas to customers unless they say it first.

Right... and that's the sort of thing that gets some Christians to write angry letters to the editor about how Christians are hard done by.

I remember a few years ago, I got a work-related call from one of the staff of a Conservative MP. The conversation was pleasant enough, all work-focused without any mention of religion at all. Then, as we're saying goodbye, she angrily says "and merry Christmas! Not 'happy holidays;' merry Christmas!" and hung up.

It was very odd. It was like the mere idea that I might not have said "merry Christmas" in response - she actually didn't give me a chance to say anything - triggered some sort of deep-seated rage in someone who had otherwise been pleasant and polite.

 

[syo]

Why do you think that?

Who is the anti-christ? Is that a Christian thing?

money. money seem to rule the world. those who have money afraid to lose it, and those who don't have money they are outcasts.

 

[Scott C.]

I think if anyone actually did live in accordance with the teachings of Christ, the opposite would be true. A true Christian does not make enemies by trying to ram their beliefs down other's throats, trying to deny the rights of those who don't think like them, casting accusations of sin to others outside their group, and so forth. A true Christian would be accepting of others, not judgmental, helpful, compassionate, loving, supportive, kind, and so forth. These are things most people do not reject.

Are you saying a true Christian would not believe that sin exists?

 

[Naama]

money. money seem to rule the world. those who have money afraid to lose it, and those who don't have money they are outcasts.

I know people often like money to much, but how could we have the standard of living we have now without currency?

 

[SomeRandom]

Right... and that's the sort of thing that gets some Christians to write angry letters to the editor about how Christians are hard done by.

I remember a few years ago, I got a work-related call from one of the staff of a Conservative MP. The conversation was pleasant enough, all work-focused without any mention of religion at all. Then, as we're saying goodbye, she angrily says "and merry Christmas! Not 'happy holidays;' merry Christmas!" and hung up.

It was very odd. It was like the mere idea that I might not have said "merry Christmas" in response - she actually didn't give me a chance to say anything - triggered some sort of deep-seated rage in someone who had otherwise been pleasant and polite.

That is rather weird. I'm not fond of the martyr victim types of Christians myself. They remind me too much of a spoilt child throwing a temper tantrum upon being told "no."

 

[blü 2]

today's society doesn't allow people to have a christian lifestyle.

What does society or locale have to do with a Christian lifestyle? You can live a Christian lifestyle wholly in your mind. You don't need Blessed Sauce for your hot dogs or a Prayerful Bus to get you to work. If the movies are showing Mass Murder or Bikie Sex Riot, you don't have to go. Live and let live is Christian, isn't it? Or isn't it?

today's society divides people and makes people lonely.

Perhaps, but how does that prevent a Christian lifestyle for anyone who wants one?

society is ruled by the antichrist

What's 'the antichrist'? Anyone who disagrees with you? What, exactly?

if someone chooses to live in accordance with the teachings of Christ, society will reject them.

So there are no Christian communities near where you live, I take it, no churches or social gatherings, no shops selling aids to worship or Bible Weekly? Then be a holy hermit ─ the anchorite calling has a long, honorable and often revered tradition.

Being a Christian is an outlook, an attitude, not a place or a situation.

 

[Vancouversailor]

then why homeless people exist? where are the christians to help them?

Homeless people exist, particularly in the US, because it is an extreme capitalist society. Despite the in God we Trust signs, the country is governed by greed and money alone. At the opposite end is Norway, where people are compassionate and caring, where the divide between rich and not so rich is very tiny, and where nobody needs to sleep on the streets or in parks. To ensure that everyone can get the education they deserve there are no tuition fees at Universities or Colleges, and everyone who moves from their parental home to study somewhere else receives a cost of living scholarship. Of course I hear the voices in the US screaming That's Communism! Well if it is, then communism is a lot closer to true Christian principles than the greed, avarice and lack of compassion that is the hallmark of the US society.

 

[zenobia]

today's society doesn't allow people to have a christian lifestyle. today's society divides people and makes people lonely. society is ruled by the antichrist and, if someone chooses to live in accordance with the teachings of Christ, society will reject them.

 

[zenobia]

I agree with you to a certain extent. Where I live some of the primary schools have set up ‘gay day’ inviting children who support ‘gay pride’ to wear rainbow colours. This definitely divides people and in this case children. I also have a friend who was told that her child was not permitted to disagree with same sex marriages. Currently a high profile sports person is being criticised for expressing (when asked) his Christian viewpoint.
Yes the pendulum has swung. Some so called Christians have behaved exclusively and prejudicially over the centuries to the harm of others. ( Behaving outside the principals of true Christian values).

But to respond your viewpoint, Society today has definitely put restrictions on living as a true Christian...which includes not supporting values that are in conflict with Bible principles.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I agree with you to a certain extent. Where I live some of the primary schools have set up ‘gay day’ inviting children who support ‘gay pride’ to wear rainbow colours. This definitely divides people and in this case children.

If inviting children to take a stance against violence, discrimination, and shaming divides you from everyone else because of your beliefs, you ought to take a long, hard look at the morality of those beliefs.

 

[zenobia]

Why do you think that?

Who is the anti-christ? Is that a Christian thing?

Anti-christ is simply someone who rejects the teachings of Christ..

 

[zenobia]

If inviting children to take a stance against violence, discrimination, and shaming divides you from everyone else because of your beliefs, you ought to take a long, hard look at the morality of those beliefs.

The post asked whether Christians were being isolated and excluded because of their beliefs... if a child attended this day without wearing 'rainbow' colours to support 'gay pride' they would have been viewed pretty much how you have concluded above.. But that's not the case. I support what the Bible teaches about morality, this is what I choose to believe, which means (and I'm not going to be bullied into saying otherwise) I don't agree with public displays in school on what people decide is best for them on this type of moral question. What you choose is your choice too. But making me look like I'm the bad guy for what I believe is what you are saying I'm doing.... I have indeed taken a hard look at the morality of my beliefs and I am comfortable with them, even if it does not suit your idea of popular morality. Having said that, I would never, neither would my children or grandchildren do anything to harm those who have different beliefs. The real question should be about how we represent our personal beliefs in our daily conduct and attitudes.

 

[tayla]

today's society doesn't allow people to have a christian lifestyle. today's society divides people and makes people lonely. society is ruled by the antichrist and, if someone chooses to live in accordance with the teachings of Christ, society will reject them.

Yes, so very rude of society to treat Christians like this. We should allow all varieties of viewpoints as long as people don't cause harm to others.

But on the flip side, perhaps if Christians weren't trying to impose a form of Christendom on everyone...

 

[RedDragon94]

Christians should probably be living in religious communist communes where they share everything, according to the teachings of Jesus and how the early Church in Acts was described.

Okay then, describe it.

 

[Apologes]

Christians form 2 billion of the world's population. I'm pretty sure we make a decent chunk of our societies. It's not like society is a concept anyone could not be a part of (unless they live in isolation from the rest of the world) so it would be more accurate to say that there is a chunk of society that doesn't like our own chunk of society.

Also, unless you're a Jehovah's Witness I don't think you (as far as Christianity is concerned) have a reason to believe the world is run by the devil.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Okay then, describe it.

What?