'Christian'

[Rival]

For a long while now I've noticed this trend of what are, honestly, Christians refusing to call themselves such. It's as though there's this aversion to the label 'Christian', when most of the people refusing to use the term are clearly Christians. I've seen,

'Bible believer'
'Jesus believer'
'Follower/Disciple of Jesus'
'Messianic'
'Completed Jew' [this one is also offensive]
'Biblist'

etc.

Any reason why 'Christian' is a dirty word to, well, Christians? I've not observed this in any other large faith group. Muslims call themselves Muslims, Jews call themselves Jews, Baha'is call themselves Baha'is.

 

[74x12]

'Completed Jew' [this one is also offensive]

Christianity was considered a sect of Judaism when it began. It's just a fact.

 

[Rival]

Christianity was considered a sect of Judaism when it began. It's just a fact.

The term implies that Jews are somehow incomplete and their faith is lacking. It is a disgusting term. Christianity split from Judaism thousands of years ago. They are two completely separate religions. I've never heard a Muslim call himself a 'Completed Christian'. Because it sounds stupid and wrong.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Christianity was considered a sect of Judaism when it began. It's just a fact.

Huh? Judaism was Judaism. Christianity was Christianity. The Church took a lot of Jewish parts (sacrificial meal, for example) and added it to their faith which is also in part Greek and later Roman too.

I even saw on this forum that Jews say they don't even believe on the same god as christians (in regards to the trinity).

The Church took things from Judaism is a fact. Judaism wasn't ever part of the Christian faith (no human sacrifice for atoning sins).

Huh?

 

[Audie]

For a long while now I've noticed this trend of what are, honestly, Christians refusing to call themselves such. It's as though there's this aversion to the label 'Christian', when most of the people refusing to use the term are clearly Christians. I've seen,

'Bible believer'
'Jesus believer'
'Follower/Disciple of Jesus'
'Messianic'
'Completed Jew' [this one is also offensive]

etc.

Any reason why 'Christian' is a dirty word to, well, Christians? I've not observed this in any other large faith group. Muslims call themselves Muslims, Jews call themselves Jews, Baha'is call themselves Baha'is.

Huh. I thought it was because out of 30,000 named
sects and countless more indivivuals and small
groups, people like to be more specific.

Like , LDS is, is not Christian? Branch Davidian..

Hope "Christian" is not a dirty word anywhere but
in Islamic countries.

 

[Rival]

Huh. I thought it was because out of 30,000 named
sects and countless more indivivuals and small
groups, people like to be more specific.

Like , LDS is, is not Christian? Branch Davidian..

Hope "Christian" is not a dirty word anywhere but
in Islamic countries.

I notice it among individuals, not groups.

 

[Audie]

I notice it among individuals, not groups.

You do or dont agree with what I said?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

For a long while now I've noticed this trend of what are, honestly, Christians refusing to call themselves such. It's as though there's this aversion to the label 'Christian', when most of the people refusing to use the term are clearly Christians. I've seen,

'Bible believer'
'Jesus believer'
'Follower/Disciple of Jesus'
'Messianic'
'Completed Jew' [this one is also offensive]
'Biblist'

etc.

Any reason why 'Christian' is a dirty word to, well, Christians? I've not observed this in any other large faith group. Muslims call themselves Muslims, Jews call themselves Jews, Baha'is call themselves Baha'is.

From what I know, they (like the word christiandom) don't want to associate themselves with Catholicism. They figure associating with a label somehow connected them to rituals of the church to which many denominational hate with a passion. Some just say they are "spiritual and not religious." It's a Protestantism way of separating oneself from the church.

 

[wizanda]

Any reason why 'Christian' is a dirty word

Christianity was first established in Antioch, and was specifically given to the followers of Simon and Paul (Acts 11:26)...

The earlier disciples were called Followers of the Way or Ebionites, who stood against Christianity.

In my opinion.

 

[icehorse]

Maybe it's because of the decrees that have been coming out of the Vatican for the last several hundred years? (The current pope seems to be doing a somewhat better job.)

 

[Rival]

You do or dont agree with what I said?

I don't agree. Groups, small Churches label themselves, such as The Witnesses or Southern Baptists, but they are well known groups. What I'm talking of is individuals who are clearly traditional or close to traditional Christians, refusing to call themselves it, but choosing something like 'Disciple of Jesus' instead.

 

[Rival]

Maybe it's because of the decrees that have been coming out of the Vatican for the last several hundred years? (The current pope seems to be doing a somewhat better job.)

This doesn't affect Proddies though, which is as well the group I notice this among most.

 

[David T]

For a long while now I've noticed this trend of what are, honestly, Christians refusing to call themselves such. It's as though there's this aversion to the label 'Christian', when most of the people refusing to use the term are clearly Christians. I've seen,

'Bible believer'
'Jesus believer'
'Follower/Disciple of Jesus'
'Messianic'
'Completed Jew' [this one is also offensive]

etc.

Any reason why 'Christian' is a dirty word to, well, Christians? I've not observed this in any other large faith group. Muslims call themselves Muslims, Jews call themselves Jews, Baha'is call themselves Baha'is.

AD Christians are wierd and totally NORMAL..... . Many are atheists even!!! BC Christians are OBTUSE HERETICS. according to AD Christians. . Now if that's confusing well there you go being an AD Christian regardless.... BC Christians can be heretics but write in a fashion that AD Christians don't realize they are being heretics to AD Christian nonense. !!!! Below is a heresy written in a certain fashion as to not appear to be heresy. Tricky bit of writing....

 

[Rival]

Christianity was first established in Antioch, and was specifically given to the followers of Simon and Paul (Acts 11:26)...

The earlier disciples were called Followers of the Way or Ebionites, who stood against Christianity.

In my opinion.

Yeah, it started out as a slur, but they adopted it.

 

[74x12]

The term implies that Jews are somehow incomplete and their faith is lacking. It is a disgusting term. Christianity split from Judaism thousands of years ago. They are two completely separate religions. I've never heard a Muslim call himself a 'Completed Christian'. Because it sounds stupid and wrong.

I see your point of how it could offend people. Although I don't look at it like you do, I do see your point of view. However Messianic Jew is not offensive? It's Jews that believe Jesus is their Messiah. Who can say that is offensive?

I even saw on this forum that Jews say they don't even believe on the same god as christians (in regards to the trinity).

The Church took things from Judaism is a fact. Judaism wasn't ever part of the Christian faith (no human sacrifice for atoning sins).

I'm not trinitarian; so that doesn't apply to me. I believe in One God like Moses did.

The "church" took things? What church? I'm talking about the book of Acts church. They were all Jews at first. It was only later that they got the revelation that the Light of the Jewish Messiah was for the goyim also.

 

[Rival]

I see your point of how it could offend people. Although I don't look at it like you do, I do see your point of view. However Messianic Jew is not offensive? It's Jews that believe Jesus is their Messiah. Who can say that is offensive?

Messianic Jew I dislike, too.

Just use 'Christian'. It's more honest.

 

[74x12]

Christianity was first established in Antioch, and was specifically given to the followers of Simon and Paul (Acts 11:26)...

The earlier disciples were called Followers of the Way or Ebionites, who stood against Christianity.

In my opinion.

That's your spin?

The early church at Antioch was largely Jewish itself.

Messianic Jew I dislike, too.

Just use 'Christian'. It's more honest.

I do use Christian myself. However, I don't think that it's offensive for someone born Jewish who is convinced that Jesus is the Messiah to call themselves Jewish. So I like the term Messianic Jew.

 

[icehorse]

This doesn't affect Proddies though, which is as well the group I notice this among most.

Well that's logically true, but I'd guess that the folks you're talking about are NOT typically applying a tight logical argument to inform their behaviors.

Hi @Rival!

 

[Brian Hodgson]

Can anyone prove that god exists

 

[Rival]

Well that's logically true, but I'd guess that the folks you're talking about are NOT typically applying a tight logical argument to inform their behaviors.

Hi @Rival!

Hi!