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Christianity is a crapshoot

Muffled

Jesus in me
Muffled said:
I believe sin is not accredited until the person is mature but I also believe the spirit that lives in the baby may be sinful from a previous life.

Nobody from Christianity did respond, this means Inter alia our friend is wrong that a baby is sinful from the previous life. This idea is not supported by Jesus. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Regards

I believe this is the null hypothesis. One must show that a day delay in response means no response and that no response means that people had nothing to say about it. Good luck with that.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
It is simply symbolic, like they say " one is lion-hearted", it only means one is brave not that one was lion in one's previous life.
Regards

I believe a lot of people construe it that way but The Holy Spirit in me sees it as identifying the spirit of John the Baptist.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Muffled said:
I believe a lot of people construe it that way but The Holy Spirit in me sees it as identifying the spirit of John the Baptist.
How does one know that there isn't Evil Spirit in one rather than the Holy one?
Regards
Any other Christian, please.
Regards
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Learning what, practicing what
One must learn the language. It is not heard in the mind like demon communication is. It comes from the heart without words.
To practice anything you must grasp it. To grasp it you must learn what other people who proved faithful have said about it.
I am sure I do not know how to answer it appropriately in words and even if I did it would be a lot of words.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Do you mean people you talk to, know personally? Or gurus?
Other people who proved faithful. I do not know them personally. Abel, Abraham, Sarah, Issac, David, Jonathan, Abigail, Daniel, John, Mary, Paul and most of all Jesus.
I know no gurus. Nobody alive has proved faithful in my opinion. I am not aware of learning anything new from anyone living.
 

kalyan

Aspiring Sri VaishNava
I agree with this , starting with original sin, virgin birth, eternal hell and all the blackmail, not to mention renaming pagan festivals to accomodate, the killings of millions of pagans, conversion and so on..........

Christianity is the biggest bluff of the modern world
 

Etritonakin

Well-Known Member
Orthodox Christianity teaches one must accept Jesus to be saved. Few Christians can explain what exactly one “saved” from. Rather than to discuss what “saved” means, what does it mean to accept Jesus or to believe in Jesus? Jesus died about 2000 years ago. He is not here to speak for himself. The only available means a person in the 21st century has to hear about Jesus is by the testimony of others. This testimony is transmitted either by word of mouth, a minister or pastor, books, radio, internet, etc. None of these sources had contact with Jesus. Using the Bible as the primary source opens more questions. There is no agreement among the churches on the interpretation on Christian scripture. If there were there wouldn’t be so many churches. Then the problem of authenticity of the Bible comes up. The New Testament is a collection of 27 books. The early church fathers chose what books are in and what books are out. How can we trust their decision? Who were these men? Then the problem of authorship of these 27 books comes up. Many of the authors of these books are anonymous. Scholars are not in agreement on who wrote them. Then there is the problem of the authenticity of the subject matter itself. We can’t ask the authors because they are long dead and we don’t know who they are anyway. Added to the mix are other books that didn’t make the cut. How can anyone know the Gospel of Thomas is is not authentic? Not only is Christianity diverse but there are many other religions across the planet. It would seem Christianity is a crapshoot, a gamble.

It would only be a gamble if God were not actively bringing about the end he declared from the beginning.

God had human history written beforehand in the scriptures.
He is definitely able to decide who receives what knowledge at what point.

None can come to God except God first calls them.
God knows who are his. His sheep know him.
The lot falls in the lap, but the choice is solely of the Lord.
He who has an ear, let him hear, etc., etc......
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
How does one know that there isn't Evil Spirit in one rather than the Holy one?
Regards

I believe the evil spirit does not say anything good and lies but God speaks good things and tells the truth. Also I am well exercised in understanding God from His Word.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
I agree with this , starting with original sin, virgin birth, eternal hell and all the blackmail, not to mention renaming pagan festivals to accomodate, the killings of millions of pagans, conversion and so on..........

Christianity is the biggest bluff of the modern world

I believe you have you gaming mixed up. Bluffs are in the card game of Poker not in Craps. In craps the outcome is determined by the roll of the dice. I believe most of what you are saying is the tendency of men to keep rolling the dice until they get the number they want.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
It would only be a gamble if God were not actively bringing about the end he declared from the beginning.

God had human history written beforehand in the scriptures.
He is definitely able to decide who receives what knowledge at what point.

None can come to God except God first calls them.
God knows who are his. His sheep know him.
The lot falls in the lap, but the choice is solely of the Lord.
He who has an ear, let him hear, etc., etc......

I believe I wouldn't tempt God by betting my house on it.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I agree with this , starting with original sin, virgin birth, eternal hell and all the blackmail, not to mention renaming pagan festivals to accomodate, the killings of millions of pagans, conversion and so on..........

Christianity is the biggest bluff of the modern world
I agree with what I have coloured in magenta.
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad- the Second Krishna or the Reformer of all revealed religions described the clergy-group of Christianity as the Anti-Christ.
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I believe the evil spirit does not say anything good and lies but God speaks good things and tells the truth. Also I am well exercised in understanding God from His Word.
One is wrong, Evil Spirit is the Deceiver, it could say good things in the garb of bad things.
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad- the Messiah in Second Coming describes one aspect of Evil-Spirit:

The word Dajjal has two connotations: First, it signifies a group which supports falsehood and works with cunning and deceit. Secondly, it is the name of the Satan who is the father of all falsehood and corruption. [Haqiqat-ul-Wahi, Ruhani Khaza’in, vol. 22, p. 326]
http://www.alislam.org/r.php?q=Dajjal+Anti-Christ&sa=
Regards
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
It would only be a gamble if God were not actively bringing about the end he declared from the beginning.

God had human history written beforehand in the scriptures.
He is definitely able to decide who receives what knowledge at what point.

None can come to God except God first calls them.
God knows who are his. His sheep know him.
The lot falls in the lap, but the choice is solely of the Lord.
He who has an ear, let him hear, etc., etc......

Please stop spouting such garbage. First of all, prove that God wrote down human history beforehand in the scriptures. Also prove that God was the one who wrote it down.

Also how does the fact that God actively brings the end means it isn't a crapshoot? That's a non sequitor. There's no connection between bringing about the end and christianity being a crapshoot.
 

Etritonakin

Well-Known Member
Please stop spouting such garbage. First of all, prove that God wrote down human history beforehand in the scriptures. Also prove that God was the one who wrote it down.

Also how does the fact that God actively brings the end means it isn't a crapshoot? That's a non sequitor. There's no connection between bringing about the end and christianity being a crapshoot.

First -you are free to study the scriptures.
Also -God will prove himself in time -but you are free to draw near to him -then he will draw near to you.
Also -Depends what you mean by Christianity.
There's no overall crapshoot, anyway -not in any belief system or lack thereof -though it may seem so now -because a crapshoot has some element of chance in the outcome.
None of those things he listed matter -except to some from their temporary perspective.
 
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