Christianity served another black eye by one of its own

[A Troubled Man]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine that this guy is not representative of Christianity.

Interesting. I'm not a rocket scientist, but it seems pretty clear there are many Christians who would agree with that guy and on the same account might very well see you as not being representative of Christianity because you might not agree.

There are over 38,000 registered denominations of Christianity and they all disagree on Christianity and probably see other denominations as not representative of Christianity.

Sure, that guy is uttering hate speech, no doubt about it. However, there is a great deal of other things in Christianity that could be considered hate speech, too, and you might even argue they're not.

Like he said, "The bible is agin' it and God is agin' it." Is he wrong about that?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Interesting. I'm not a rocket scientist, but it seems pretty clear there are many Christians who would agree with that guy and on the same account might very well see you as not being representative of Christianity because you might not agree.

There are over 38,000 registered denominations of Christianity and they all disagree on Christianity and probably see other denominations as not representative of Christianity.

Sure, that guy is uttering hate speech, no doubt about it. However, there is a great deal of other things in Christianity that could be considered hate speech, too, and you might even argue they're not.

Like he said, "The bible is agin' it and God is agin' it." Is he wrong about that?

So it's irrelevant.

I know that I don't represent "Christianity," and I know that he doesn't, either.

* It's strange that more than one person could be mislead to believing that this minister is more than he is.

The ONLY reason why he even has a voice is because some misguided fool posted a video of him online. I have YouTube videos, too, but I am not representative of anyone but myself. I play guitar, but I cannot speak of all guitarists, even folk guitarists or those who happen to play my style of music. If someone started a thread on RF to discuss a certain video, I would not all of the sudden become a significant guitarist, speaking for everyone.

This guy is insignificant with no influence to speak of. He's certainly getting more than he deserves here.

And thank god neither of you two fix rockets. You can't even tell what is relevant and what is not.

 

[A Troubled Man]

So it's irrelevant.

Perhaps, to you, but it is certainly relevant to others who see Christians denouncing Christians as sheer hypocrisy.

I know that I don't represent "Christianity," and I know that he doesn't, either.

That's the point, you only know he doesn't represent your brand of Christianity.

The ONLY reason why he even has a voice is because some misguided fool posted a video of him online. I have YouTube videos, too, but I am not representative of anyone but myself. I play guitar, but I cannot speak of all guitarists, even folk guitarists or those who happen to play my style of music. If someone started a thread on RF to discuss a certain video, I would not all of the sudden become a significant guitarist, speaking for everyone.

He may very well not be speaking for other Christians, but most likely he is speaking for his brand of Christianity.

This guy is insignificant with no influence to speak of. He's certainly getting more than he deserves here.

He does have influence, probably a whole lot more than you.

And thank god neither of you two fix rockets. You can't even tell what is relevant and what is not.

Nice cheap shot. Keep em comin'.

 

[Kathryn]

I doubt it.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine that this guy is not representative of Christianity. If he were some kind of recognized leader, like a Catholic cardinal, the president of a denomination or important Christian group -- yes, perhaps, the example would gain more significance.

As it appears, this is just a clown with a microphone. Who cares. He's saying stupid things because he is a stupid, insignificant man.

It seems like you're having some delusions of grandeur - not of yourself - but of the significance of someone who was stupid in the first place.

Preach it.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Perhaps, to you, but it is certainly relevant to others who see Christians denouncing Christians as sheer hypocrisy.

It doesn't bother me when people are guided by an anti-Christian bias.

What I can ask is that people don't follow that bias stupidly.

Stupidity offends me. It offends a lot of people. But a bias will cause some to swallow any tripe that comes down the pike.

Be sure chew. I'd hate to see you choke on it.

 

[A Troubled Man]

It doesn't bother me when people are guided by an anti-Christian bias.

What anti-Christian bias do you refer?

What I can ask is that people don't follow that bias stupidly.

Stupidity offends me. It offends a lot of people. But a bias will cause some to swallow any tripe that comes down the pike.

Who is to say which Christian is stupid and which is not? You?

Be sure chew. I'd hate to see you choke on it.

Another cheap shot. Are you showing me how Christians should behave?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Another cheap shot. Are you showing me how Christians should behave?

Yes. We both know that I have that kind of influence.

Angellous is your daddy.

 

[fantome profane]

N. C. Pastor Calls For Death of "Queers & Homosexuals"

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Nothing new of course, just a reminder that _______fill in the blank_________ .

Love it. The best part is the last 15 seconds where he starts talking about his sexual fantasies.

 

[waitasec]

I doubt it.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine that this guy is not representative of Christianity. If he were some kind of recognized leader, like a Catholic cardinal, the president of a denomination or important Christian group -- yes, perhaps, the example would gain more significance.

As it appears, this is just a clown with a microphone. Who cares. He's saying stupid things because he is a stupid, insignificant man.

It seems like you're having some delusions of grandeur - not of yourself - but of the significance of someone who was stupid in the first place.

i would agree that, generally speaking, christians have about 98% more tact than this piece of work, however i would argue that the general consensus of those who follow christianity would agree with the gist of his message...that homosexuality is evil/immoral

 

[InformedIgnorance]

I couldnt watch it past the electrified fence they couldnt get out of and that they would die out in a few years because they cant reproduce (then the pause to look around as if he had imparted some great kernel of wisdom)... I was laughing too loud I thought I might disturb the other coffee shop patrons XD I love guys like this... he reminds me that no matter how screwed up I think I am sometimes, there are always people like him out there that make me seem well adjusted.

 

[Pegg]

"by their fruits you will recognize them" .... fake christian.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

So, let me get this straight, Richard Dawkins speaking at a convention for atheists and secularists saying that people shouldn't be afraid to "mock" religious beliefs receives cries of objection, anger and page after page of indignation and righteous fury. *

A Christian preacher calling for the death of homosexuals in front of a church full of adhearants, meanwhile, gets little more than a "meh, he's not representative of Christianity and he's not significant enough to be concerned about".

What the holy hell?? Where's the anger? Where's the objection? Where the hell is the righteous fury?

Seriously guys, what the hell??

* NOTE: Forgive me for bringing up that same bloody thread again - please feel free to ignore the reference - but I feel that this is a pretty glaring example of sheer hypocrisy on the part of some people on this forum.

 

[Heathen Hammer]

The ONLY reason why he even has a voice is because some misguided fool posted a video of him online.

Well, technically the only reason he has a voice is that he's a pastor

 

[Quagmire]

So, let me get this straight, Richard Dawkins speaking at a convention for atheists and secularists saying that people shouldn't be afraid to "mock" religious beliefs receives cries of objection, anger and page after page of indignation and righteous fury. *

A Christian preacher calling for the death of homosexuals in front of a church full of adhearants, meanwhile, gets little more than a "meh, he's not representative of Christianity and he's not significant enough to be concerned about".

What the holy hell?? Where's the anger? Where's the objection? Where the hell is the righteous fury?

Seriously guys, what the hell??

* NOTE: Forgive me for bringing up that same bloody thread again - please feel free to ignore the reference - but I feel that this is a pretty glaring example of sheer hypocrisy on the part of some people on this forum.

Dawkins is a well known celebrity with a huge audience and considerable influence, so whether you agree with him or not he's at least earned the right to be taken seriously.

The preacher in the OP vid is an obscure here-to-fore unknown fanatic who's only claim to fame is his own idiocy. Basically, except as leverage for anti-Christian rhetoric the guy serves no purpose, poses no threat, and doesn't warrant serious consideration.

If you don't see as many people attacking him at least part of the reason is probably because you don't see anyone in here defending him. Most people are just ignoring him.

So no, it isn't "a pretty glaring example of sheer hypocrisy on the part of some people on this forum". IMO, this thread doesn't make any sort of viable point so there's nothing here for anyone who isn't rabidly anti-religious to respond to. It's just one more in a never ending series of "Lets take an isolated incident of extremism and pretend it's representative of religion as a whole".

I think by this time, most of the sensible people in here know better than to waste too much of their time with these kinds of threads.

 

[Gomeza]

Well, technically the only reason he has a voice is that he's a pastor

No doubt, if the man was homeless and dressed in rags, ranting this nonsense on a street corner, he would be dismissed by one and all. But as a pastor, wearing a suit and speaking from behind a podium to a congregation, the same people who would cross the street to avoid him if he were a ranting homeless man, are now listening to and weighing his words.

 

[Revoltingest]

N. C. Pastor Calls For Death of "Queers & Homosexual"....

Ya know, this is just an invitation for Xians to trot out some sociopathic atheist as an example of our moral bankruptcy.
And they will be just as right as you are.

 

[Revoltingest]

How serious should we take a guy who says "A'gin".

Well, if'n he's a fix'n to carry out some mayhem, ya might oughta keep an eye on the feller.

 

[Sleeppy]

He's not really calling for their death if they can't reproduce anyway.. But, we're all aware his remarks are pretty stupid. And.. so is the thread title.

 

[Quagmire]

Well, if'n he's a fix'n to carry out some mayhem, ya might oughta keep an eye on the feller.

Heck *spits plug of chaw int'a spittuun*, he h'ain't even bonyfide.

 

[Skwim]

Ya know, this is just an invitation for Xians to trot out some sociopathic atheist as an example of our moral bankruptcy.

If I had generalized to all Christians they might have a point, but I didn't, so they wouldn't.

And they will be just as right as you are.

No they wouldn't because a black eye, (one rotten Christian) while noticeable, doesn't extend to the entire body (all Christians). His remark doesn't indicate Christianity IS bad, it just makes the religion LOOK bad. I know this is a subtle difference, but an important one. To the aware, enlightened person his stupid remark will easily be seen for what it is; however, for the unaware person who is fairly ignorant of Christianity it could well color his perception of the faith. And this is where I see it as a danger . . . . well, at least a poor advertisement for the religion. Not that I care about the survival of Christianity, but I am surprised at the lack of concern by other Christians.