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Christians can't be Anti-Semitic

rosends

Well-Known Member
Semite
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a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs

b : a descendant of these peoples
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: a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language
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I'm not against semites but I'm not too crazy about Zionists. By the way Judaism and Zionism are as different as day and night.
defining "semite" has no impact on the actual definition and origin of the word "anti-Semite" and its proper use based on that origin.

and Judaism and Zionism in many dimensions overlap substantially.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
If we analyze the Christian history, we see how much damage anti-Semitism produced even to Christians themselves.
when half Italy was under the Spanish domination, we suffered great injustices.
In 1492 Isabel and Fernando, the so called "Catholic" kings expelled all the Jews from the regions of the Spanish empire (including Italy). In my town there was a very important Jewish community.
Expelling the Jews damaged the Spanish economy (and ours), because they were the engine of economy.

My dream is to recreate a Jewish community in the ancient Jewish district of the historical centre, by turning the main Church into a Synagogue. This would try to repair the great injustices that the Spanish did to us (the Spanish destroyed lots of Greek monuments too)

In this article (I don't understand a word, it's Hebrew), it is written about the Jewish community

גטו סירקוזה – ויקיפדיה
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
I'd agree more with saying that Christianity can't be anti-Semitic, not Christians. Same with Islam and Muslims. Christians and Muslims are humans and humans, no matter what, do make mistakes. including ones that could go against their religions.

Christians and Muslims should not be anti-Semitic is more like it to me.
 

Harikrish

Active Member
The only country that is at peace with Israel the land of the Jews is Egypt and Egypt is not a Christian country. There I'll be no anti-semitism among Christians if the Jews converted to Christianity. Jesus died both for Jews and Gentiles even though he was killed by the Jews. But the Jews continuing to reject Jesus is an affront to Christians because it makes Jesus who was a Jew an outcast among his own people.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
The only country that is at peace with Israel the land of the Jews is Egypt and Egypt is not a Christian country. There I'll be no anti-semitism among Christians if the Jews converted to Christianity. Jesus died both for Jews and Gentiles even though he was killed by the Jews. But the Jews continuing to reject Jesus is an affront to Christians because it makes Jesus who was a Jew an outcast among his own people.
Given that it says quite damn clearly in the Torah and such that the Messiah would come and KILL LEVIATHAN AND RAISE ISRAEL INTO THE HEAVENS I think Jews could be forgiven for not thinking The Nazarene was their Messiah.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The only country that is at peace with Israel the land of the Jews is Egypt and Egypt is not a Christian country. There I'll be no anti-semitism among Christians if the Jews converted to Christianity. Jesus died both for Jews and Gentiles even though he was killed by the Jews. But the Jews continuing to reject Jesus is an affront to Christians because it makes Jesus who was a Jew an outcast among his own people.
First of all, Jordan is at peace with Israel and, secondly, your "understanding" of both Christianity and Judaism seems to be both very limited and highly distorted. I recommend doing some serious studying before posting more on this.
 

Harikrish

Active Member

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Last time I checked, Canada and Israel enjoy quite a good relationship. Guess that doesn't count. Then again, we tend to get along with almost everyone.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Jordan at peace with Israel, but for how long.

Relationship between Israel and Jordan grows warier amid tensions in Jerusalem

Relationship between Israel and Jordan grows warier amid tensions in Jerusalem - The Washington Post
There's almost always going to be some tensions between countries, but the leadership of both Jordan and Israel well know that it is each's self interest to continue mutual cooperation. The biggest friction there are with some in Jordan who simply feel that Israel shouldn't exist or are upset about what happened in the last conflict between Israel and Hamas.
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
The only country that is at peace with Israel the land of the Jews is Egypt and Egypt is not a Christian country. There I'll be no anti-semitism among Christians if the Jews converted to Christianity. Jesus died both for Jews and Gentiles even though he was killed by the Jews. But the Jews continuing to reject Jesus is an affront to Christians because it makes Jesus who was a Jew an outcast among his own people.

While you can debate the extent to which these countries are "Christian" in any meaningful sense, North America, Central America, South America and Europe have friendly if sometimes tense relations with Israel, and certainly have not been at war with Israel (at least not since the founding era) nor denied recognition to Israel. Egypt is actually a very bad example for a number of reasons.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Jesus is our model. and Jesus, the first Christian, was a Jew. so he couldn't be against Himself.


Let's not forget that Hitler and most Nazis worshiped Germanic gods. and they killed lots of Christian priests

You seems mixed between belief and race , Jesus (pbuh) was jew in race but not belief . so he came to complete so correct/fix .

Jews rejected him (his belief) .

Hitler and Nazis worshiped germanic gods ?

most of germans were Christians , what germanic gods you talking about ?


watch this video :
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
You seems mixed between belief and race , Jesus (pbuh) was jew in race but not belief . so he came to complete so correct/fix .

Jews rejected him (his belief) .

Hitler and Nazis worshiped germanic gods ?

most of germans were Christians , what germanic gods you talking about ?


watch this video :
You don't need the video to prove this.

Hitler was never excommunicated by the Catholic Church. Goebelles was...for marrying a protestant divorcee.

Honestly, the only 'pagan'(more just a general mystic) in the Third Reich was Himmler, and even Hitler thought the chicken-farmer was a nut.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
After thinking about it, I think the appropriate statement would be "Christians aren't supposed to be antisemitic". This is true because a lot of Christians I've known (way too many) are indeed antisemitic.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
After thinking about it, I think the appropriate statement would be "Christians aren't supposed to be antisemitic". This is true because a lot of Christians I've known (way too many) are indeed antisemitic.

I disagree. When the OP says 'christians' I take it to mean real Christians. In this manner, he isn't required to change the wording.
 
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