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Christians can't be Anti-Semitic

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I disagree. When the OP says 'christians' I take it to mean real Christians. In this manner, he isn't required to change the wording.
I used to separate "true" Christians from "false" Christians, but I realized, as I grew older, that only God knows a person's heart. But you are correct, a person who is truly a disciple of Jesus could not be antisemitic, in my way of thinking. I can only hope (and pray) that all those Christians are antisemitic come to their senses.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Example: If I say, 'xians can't worship false gods', what am I saying? Am I saying that xians literally cannot worship false gods, or am I saying, if you worship false gods, you aren't Xian?

Merry Yule, praise the idol!
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
I used to separate "true" Christians from "false" Christians, but I realized, as I grew older, that only God knows a person's heart. But you are correct, a person who is truly a disciple of Jesus could not be antisemitic, in my way of thinking. I can only hope (and pray) that all those Christians are antisemitic come to their senses.

I assume you still separate what you think are real xians from false ones? I don't see why you wouldn't.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I generally think we should avoid the "not a true Scotsman" approach, and recognize the diversity within our religious ranks, including the ones that we simply cannot at all relate to and believe may be causing a lot of hurt. If we recognize the problem, then we can deal with it; but if we don't, then we're not likely to deal with the problems.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I assume you still separate what you think are real xians from false ones? I don't see why you wouldn't.
Only in extreme cases, the the Westboro Baptist Church and other such cases. I am speaking more of pointing out different denominations; a lot of Christians say that JWs or Mormons aren't true Christians and I refuse to do that.
 

McBell

Unbound
Only in extreme cases, the the Westboro Baptist Church and other such cases. I am speaking more of pointing out different denominations; a lot of Christians say that JWs or Mormons aren't true Christians and I refuse to do that.
Funny thing is, those who have tried to show that another denomination is not "true" only shows how it is different from theirs.
 
Christmas a brake from all the routine ?
The first Indian’s comment when receiving a gift from the first pilgrims to the New World ‘ I am not starving (MF) that's my bird and don’t give me no jive turkey fork tongue and that;s a steaming pie of *"?:

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A bit late and seasonal greetings Hay85, I am not trying to shoot you down however I cannot say that I agree with you, I have come across the this issue on a personal level, on asking one of our Cathedral priests about the Jewish association with the Catholic church he categorically stated that the religious teachings of the Catholic Church do not reflect the teachings of the Jewish religion, it t is also worth remembering that the Jews reject Jesus as the son of god and the functionality of the trinity. Saying that the Catholic church in theory believe that their function should be one of compassion , the Church being the people and the people and the people being the church , during the WWII the Catholic church helped many people some of them Jews escape the Nazi and Nazi death camps as well as threatening any member of the Catholic church with excommunication if they were collaborating the the Nazi during WWII, if anything it is that association of the compassionate duty of the Catholic church that incorrectly given them the tag as being effectively a integral part of Judaism, some years back I had a Nazi loose his head over the Vatican flag bearing the Papal keys saying that ''this flag says he likes Jews'' which is the point I am trying to make of the Judeo Christian ethics , I think is is fair to say that any focus on Judaism is merely a teaching of the promise which is also effective of the Islamic teachings who rebuke the Jews since one would have to be gentile to be truly accepted, the Judeo Christian teaching of love and let live allows the embracing of Jews but not as a accepted Catholic, one would have to convert to be allowed to receive communion or be Christian which you already no doubt know, I think though the publicly significant moves by Pope Benedict The Sixteenth a couple of years ago when he reconciled with Auschwitz was also a show of compassion of the Catholic Church and not so much a show for Jewish religious belief, a couple of notes you may not know, The Nazis agreed never to wear political symbols whilst is the German Catholic church and also many German Catholics believed in the Gideon Jesus a teaching of the white Jesus doctrine... I am not Muslim nor am I Jewish but I do see what it is.
On a different point, can I ask? Pelagian Catholicism is that a regular and modern idea Pelagian associated with the Catholic practice, I say this because the common misconception is that sex is the original sin, which is a total fallacy, the original sin is to do with the jealousy of the fallen and man attempting godlike knowledge by man at least in in theory.
 
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pearl

Well-Known Member
I think though the publicly significant moves by Pope Benedict The Sixteenth a couple of years ago when he reconciled with Auschwitz was also a show of compassion of the Catholic Church and not so much a show for Jewish religious belief


The faith witnessed to by Hebrew Scripture is not merely another religion to Christians, but is the foundation of our own faith.
They are part of our common heritage in faith. Still today the Liturgy has much in common with what Jesus would have done
and prayed at synagogue. Jesus would, before saying his prayers, cover his head with his cloak. This was for the Jew of his period, both an outer garment for warmth and a blanket at night. It would become the Jewish prayer shawl today.
As Jesus put on the tilit , he would recite a prayer. This before Vatican II was kept in the prayer a priest said before putting on his robes before Mass. The washing of a priest’s hands before the Eucharist, corresponded to the ablutions of a Jew before prayers.
The standing during the gospels is, in Jewish liturgy, the standing for the Torah. The prayers of the offertory are the prayers of the Jewish Benediction before a meal.
The Sanctus is a direct quote from the Jewish prayer the Quedushah, while the ending of the maranatha when we say “Come Lord Jesus” is there in the invocation for the coming of the Messiah in the Jewish Shemoneh Esreh said daily.

The structure of the Mass recalls the structure of the Temple service and sacrifice. The beating of the breast at the Kyries repeats the Jewish beating of the breast as a sign of mourning or of repentance.
The octave after Christmas or Easter, is the week kept by Jews after every major feast. The beni-toi with its holy water, sign of baptism and once placed at the entrance of Catholic homes, takes the place of the Shema Israel encased in the wall before the entry into Jewish homes. And the readings of the Easter Vigil are the Passover readings Our Lord would have known.
 
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