Christians: How could Earth only be 6000 years old?

[angellous_evangellous]

oooh that's cool

haha - I love it because it's precisely twice as old as humans are supposed to be, according to bad biblical interpretation.

 

[outhouse]

The problem with literality, as I see it, is that it is often held to be the first, last and only understanding that is permitted.
That does little to explain what the Bible is teaching, but it does provide bantha doodoo enough for many fruitless, malodorous and messy discussions.

true

I think allot of the confusion is because there are literal parts as well as allegory and poems and hymns for that matter.

I think it takes some education to put it all together and education is something the world as sorely missing

it would be nice if those that preached it ,,, taught how to read it as well

 

[dmgdnooc]

lol, now I'm agreeing with outhouse!

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I've just discovered that humanity is not 6,000 years old.

It's three years old.

 

[dmgdnooc]

:birthday::candle::candle::candle:

 

[TheGodHypothesis]

It was an arbitrary number. You're missing the point of the creation story.

Missing the point? 30-40% of christians accept that as literal fact against everything we know about physics, geology, astronomy and biology. With respect, I believe you missed the point. Think of the credulity of the Religiothink mind and then think how easy it is to get them to do ANHTHING with the proviso that The Bible...The Koran...The Torah ..tells them it is ok. " Thou shalt not suffer a witch(sorceress ) to live"

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Missing the point? 30-40% of christians accept that as literal fact against everything we know about physics, geology, astronomy and biology. With respect, I believe you missed the point. Think of the credulity of the Religiothink mind and then think how easy it is to get them to do ANHTHING with the proviso that The Bible...The Koran...The Torah ..tells them it is ok. " Thou shalt not suffer a witch(sorceress ) to live"

It might be closer to 10%.

Remember, the wackos in Texas, Florida, and Kansas are the vocal minority.

(and it's not as if the great majority of the population makes any kind of choice based on their understanding of the sciences)

 

[outhouse]

It might be closer to 10%.

Remember, the wackos in Texas, Florida, and Kansas are the vocal minority.

(and it's not as if the great majority of the population makes any kind of choice based on their understanding of the sciences)

Im not sure with %60 of americans believing in creation

and what %86 percent that believe in a deity

that %10 might be a little light

 

[Where Is God]

I think 80% of the people just don't give a damn and are to concerned with paying bills and living out their lives to actively care about the world or it's coming to be.

 

[Satsujin]

The heavens would include the sun and such. And as we see, Earth came after the heavens. If you're going to use the Bible, it would be best to first understand it.

Actually according to Genesis, the Sun came after the Heavens.

1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven
1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

And oddly enough both night and day existed before the creation of Sun and Moon.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I think 80% of the people just don't give a damn and are to concerned with paying bills and living out their lives to actively care about the world or it's coming to be.

Yeah that's about what I was thinking.

 

[strikeviperMKII]

true

I think allot of the confusion is because there are literal parts as well as allegory and poems and hymns for that matter.

I think it takes some education to put it all together and education is something the world as sorely missing

it would be nice if those that preached it ,,, taught how to read it as well

I agree with you, except for one thing. One cannot be taught how to learn. You can be taught things, doctrines, dogmas (which is all most people learn). You cannot be taught how to think.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I agree with you, except for one thing. One cannot be taught how to learn. You can be taught things, doctrines, dogmas (which is all most people learn). You cannot be taught how to think.

Yes, you can. You can be indoctrinated or you can be taught how to think through material for yourself. There are entire schools of thought that produce abstract frameworks for the interpretation of material.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes, you can. You can be indoctrinated or you can be taught how to think through material for yourself. There are entire schools of thought that produce abstract frameworks for the interpretation of material.

Learning how to learn is an important skill.
Example:
I've known some technical types who had to learn to focus on a narrow subject at hand, without
making it overly complex by trying to learn all related & supporting material simultaneously.
If we each pay attention to how we best learn, we seek out the approaches which work best.

 

[Where Is God]

Yeah that's about what I was thinking.

Sad fact.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Sad fact.

Republicans have to come from somewhere.

 

[Where Is God]

Republicans have to come from somewhere.

Pwned. Republicans aggrivate me.

 

[PhAA]

Theists just bend their beliefs around the new discoveries. I think if we were a few years back, they would still hold on to that idea. But since science has better evidences now, they have to change that in order for their religion to survive.Because if they don't their religion will be full of doubt and may be proven wrong. Just think of the ideas of theists before that Earth was the center, not the Sun; or that the world is flat; that god ordering killing and occupation of someone else's country is holy, moral, and acceptable

 

[Knowledge&Truth]

Where is hell? Where is heaven? Where Is God?

You ask questions that only u can truly answer. Many christians would like to believe god is in heaven above the earth, while others choose to belive he is within everyone. As for heaven and hell.........who really knows. These are the questions of the millennium.
S.N.>> that's a can of worms not worth opening without some theories of your own.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Theists just bend their beliefs around the new discoveries. I think if we were a few years back, they would still hold on to that idea. But since science has better evidences now, they have to change that in order for their religion to survive.Because if they don't their religion will be full of doubt and may be proven wrong. Just think of the ideas of theists before that Earth was the center, not the Sun; or that the world is flat; that god ordering killing and occupation of someone else's country is holy, moral, and acceptable

That's more the mind of humans than the fault of theism. Being atheist didn't give anyone much of an advantage while most of this stuff was going on (if in fact there were a significant amount of atheists?). It's not like atheism sprung out of Zeus's leg with a fully functional science and ethics.