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Christians: How could Earth only be 6000 years old?

PhAA

PhAA

Grand Master
angellous_evangellous said:
That's more the mind of humans than the fault of theism. Being atheist didn't give anyone much of an advantage while most of this stuff was going on (if in fact there were a significant amount of atheists?). It's not like atheism sprung out of Zeus's leg with a fully functional science and ethics.
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But the creation was written in the bible as 6 days, then there's Noah's great flood, the miracles of Moses, etc.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
PhAA said:
But the creation was written in the bible as 6 days, then there's Noah's great flood, the miracles of Moses, etc.
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You realize that the literal interpretation of these stories was abadoned approximately 2,000 years ago?
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
PhAA said:
Actually, some still believe in it. And if you use it as a basis of faith, and some of it found to be flawed, then couldn't the religion be flawed or wrong?
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Yep. I've often argued that the evangelical approach to Scripture (that it's perfect, etc) has its end or perfection in atheism. If one starts with the belief that their religion is perfect, then when one finds challenges and such, one must abandon the religion.

However, if one begins with the knowledge that there is nothing perfect in the human experience - except for possibly mathematics - then one can enjoy whatever they choose in its imperfections.
 
sniper762

sniper762

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this dispensation of MAN, (since adam) "created in god's image" IS 6000 years old. the earth, itself and even EVOLVED MAN (not created in god's image), much much older.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Where Is God said:
Not true. MANY people still believe every word of Genesis to be true word for word and that it should be taken literally. I would know, I used to believe the same thing.:sorry1:
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I did'nt say that it was completely abandoned. That would be counter-intuitive.

The literal reading is, however, the minority reading and it deviates significantly from earlier interpretations.
 
sniper762

sniper762

Well-Known Member
where is god, when the bible says that god made light, that was the light that moses comprehended that replaced the darkness that existed in the beginning. this light, to him, was not necessarily supplied by the sun, which he says that god made 4 days later.
 
waitasec

waitasec

Veteran Member
sniper762 said:
where is god, when the bible says that god made light, that was the light that moses comprehended that replaced the darkness that existed in the beginning. this light, to him, was not necessarily supplied by the sun, which he says that god made 4 days later.
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the order of creation here does not add up.


vs 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.”And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

if god created light without the sun, why was there darkness?

vs 11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds....the third day.”

vs 14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
 
sniper762

sniper762

Well-Known Member
wait a sec, darkness? 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

then

14¶And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

these lights were not necessarily the same.
19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
 
waitasec

waitasec

Veteran Member
sniper762 said:
wait a sec, darkness? 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

then

14¶And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

these lights were not necessarily the same.
19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
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so why create plants and vegetation before the sun?
 
sniper762

sniper762

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how do you know that the light mentioned in the second verse didnt supply them?

furthermore, the sun was placed in the firmament on the 4th day (1 day after the plant). they could survive one day.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
sniper762 said:
how do you know that the light mentioned in the second verse didnt supply them?

furthermore, the sun was placed in the firmament on the 4th day (1 day after the plant). they could survive one day.
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why are there no plant fossils from 3.5 billion years ago but plenty of cyanobacteria stromatalite fossils ?????????????

with the earth being 4.6 billion years old and having solid geological evidence the earth did not have plants in the beginning, how can you explain this?????????
 
waitasec

waitasec

Veteran Member
sniper762 said:
how do you know that the light mentioned in the second verse didnt supply them?

furthermore, the sun was placed in the firmament on the 4th day (1 day after the plant). they could survive one day.
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then why was there darkness? what was the purpose for darkness if god created light?
 
gnostic

gnostic

The Lost One
Strictly speaking, the Bible doesn't say how many of thousands of years the Earth is.

Various scholars, since early Christian period, have tried to determine the date of Adam's creation by using the figures given in the bible. But the dates can vary, depending which texts or translations a person may use. For example, the dates given in Masoretic Texts (used in KJV and other modern English translations) have different numbers of years (in the Genesis) to the Greek Septuagint Bible.

I don't know which person or people given this date, but a lot of people favored 6007 years ago, or 3996 BC.

According to the Hebrew calendar, the traditional dating for current year (2010), is 5770 AM (Anno Mundi), which is 3760 BC. This year WILL BE 5771 AM, in September 28th (Jewish New Year).
 
sniper762

sniper762

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waitasec said:
then why was there darkness? what was the purpose for darkness if god created light?
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"in the beginning the earth was covered in darkness. thats why he made light
thats just the way it was. god didnt "create" the earth as the bible erroniously translates. "formed" or "organized" is the proper translation.

his introduction of light was just one of the processes.
 
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