Brian2
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Dates are not certain. Some scholars date Papias' writing in cca. 130.
Papias tells in the preface (preserved by Eusebius) to his writing that his primary sources were not the apostles but "elders" and he names two of them - "Aristion and the elder John". If Papias knew John (the apostle) personally he wouldn't write that he has the info (what was said by John and other apistles and who wrote the gospels) from the elders:
"I would inquire as to the discourses of the elders what was said /... / by John /... /".
"This also the elder [John] said: Mark having become the interpreter of Peter wrote accurately everything that he remembered of the things that were either said or done by Christ..."
This site: Papias of Hierapolis - Wikipedia
puts the death of Papias as 130 AD and says that some say it was in 164AD but have mistaken the death of Papylas for the death of Papias.
The work of Papias is dated by a few modern scholars to about 95–110.[7][8] Later dates were once argued from two references that now appear to be mistaken. One dating Papias' death to around the death of Polycarp in 164 is actually a mistake for Papylas.[9] Another unreliable source in which Papias is said to refer to the reign of Hadrian (117–138) seems to have resulted from confusion between Papias and Quadratus of Athens.[10]
Eusebius refers to Papias only in his third book, and thus seems to date him before the opening of his fourth book in 109. Papias himself knows several New Testament books, whose dates are themselves controversial, and was informed by John the Evangelist, Aristion, the daughters of Philip and others who had themselves heard the Twelve Apostles. He is also called a companion of the long-lived Polycarp (69–155),[4] Agapius of Hierapolis dates one of his histories to the 12th year of Trajan's rule (110 AD). For all these reasons, Papias is thought to have written around the turn of the 2nd century.
The article has other interesting things about Papias.