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Christians: I intend to watch Passion of the Christ tonight for the first time

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
I thought the "Passion" was an extremely well done movie, and loved the choice of the actors who fit their roles so well......
It touched my heart and I was captivated by the realistic scenes especially of the flogging.....
I felt like I was really witnessing the actual event....

I must add that this movie came only a few weeks before my husband passed away. We bought tickets and even though he was in the hospital he insisted that I go with our friends to see it. The movie was great inspiration to me and sitting watching what Jesus endured I knew that through and by His grace I could also manage to get through what was to come in the near future.......
 
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zomg

I aim to misbehave!
ἀλήθεια;1467481 said:
Do LDS scriptures portray the events in Gethsemane differently than the Bible does?

None that I am aware of at the moment.
 

tomspug

Absorbant
It is not an entertaining movie. It is extremely well-made though and an incredible experience. I have only seen the movie twice (the same goes for Requiem for a Dream, but I still own both movies because they are fantastic). As others have said, the soundtrack is incredible. The acting is incredible...

Why in the world would LDS avoid the movie, because it was made by an ultra-Catholic?
 

tomspug

Absorbant
Yeshua was killed to appease the Jews who numbered strong in the Roman Empire.
It was political, as it is now with the corrupt Roman Catholic Church.
From what I recall, I don't believe the movie leaned either way towards any siblings?
The 'Passion' is a term that denotes spiritual, physical & mental suffering while maintaining that faith and God's love is stronger than death.
The whole point of the Passion (and a point that for some reason people miss entirely, which coincidentally are the same people who aren't moved by the film) is that Jesus CHOSE to go through everything that occurred. He could have easily avoided it all. He chose to go to Jerusalem. He chose to be arrested. He chose to be beaten. He chose not to defend himself in court. He chose to die on a cross. That's the point.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
I am terribly sensitive to violence. Watching people suffer is unbearable to me. I can know what Jesus did for me without having to see it played out in a movie. The Passion is well made (as I said earlier), it shows a message that some Christians don't realize- how much Jesus suffered for each one of us. It just wasn't for me, I had to close my eyes during most of the flogging scene, and I was in tears as it was.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
ἀλήθεια;1467481 said:
Do LDS scriptures portray the events in Gethsemane differently than the Bible does?

LDS believe Christ suffered for our sins and all sickness in Gethsemane. This was repeated on the cross. In Gethsemane, the suffering caused Christ to literally bleed from every pore per Doctrine and Covenants:

D&C 19: 18
18 Which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spirit—and would that I might not drink the bitter cup, and shrink—
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
It was a well-made movie. The direction, direction of photography, cinematography, and soundtrack were all quite solid. Obviously, the story is what it is, so there isn't much plot. It seems religious people have a religious experience from watching it - which is understandable as it is expertly engineered to elicit particular responses - but for the non-religious, if you can enjoy movies for their art even when story is lacking, then this is a pretty good movie.
 
LDS believe Christ suffered for our sins and all sickness in Gethsemane. This was repeated on the cross. In Gethsemane, the suffering caused Christ to literally bleed from every pore per Doctrine and Covenants:

D&C 19: 18
18 Which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spirit—and would that I might not drink the bitter cup, and shrink—

Thank you for the reference. So in Gethsemane it wasn't a payment for sins, was it?

"I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world." (John 6:51)

"I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep." (John 10:11)

"Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father." (John 10: 17-18)

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." (1 Corinthians 1:18)
 
I am terribly sensitive to violence. Watching people suffer is unbearable to me. I can know what Jesus did for me without having to see it played out in a movie. The Passion is well made (as I said earlier), it shows a message that some Christians don't realize- how much Jesus suffered for each one of us. It just wasn't for me, I had to close my eyes during most of the flogging scene, and I was in tears as it was.

I agree. I was in tears, too.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
ἀλήθεια;1468309 said:
Thank you for the reference. So in Gethsemane it wasn't a payment for sins, was it?

"I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world." (John 6:51)

"I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep." (John 10:11)

"Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father." (John 10: 17-18)

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." (1 Corinthians 1:18)

I specifically said he suffered for our sins in Gethsemane.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
The whole point of the Passion (and a point that for some reason people miss entirely, which coincidentally are the same people who aren't moved by the film) is that Jesus CHOSE to go through everything that occurred.
That's nonsense. The Latter-day Saints totally believe that Jesus chose to go through the suffering He did, and for you to assume that we "missed the point" and were therefore "unmoved" is ridiculous.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
ἀλήθεια;1468562 said:
Did He pay for our sins there? What was the purpose of the cross?
The Atonement began in Gethsemane and concluded on Calvary. Not rocket science by any means. :rolleyes:
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
ἀλήθεια;1468562 said:
Did He pay for our sins there? What was the purpose of the cross?

From a previous post:

LDS believe Christ suffered for our sins and all sickness in Gethsemane. This was repeated on the cross.

As katzpur said, it started in Gethsemane and ended on the cross.
 

Jordan St. Francis

Well-Known Member
I don't see anything particularly odd in regarding Gethsemane as the starting point of his atonement. Personally, I think the entire life of Christ, which was from the beginning lived for man, somehow involved in the atonement.

In the garden Christ experiences the kind of fear and isolation that sin brings, so it is justly understood as a theological event- culminated, of course, on the Cross.
 
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