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Christians in America

EverChanging

Well-Known Member
Christians in America are mercilessly persecuted. We are like Jews in Nazi Germany.

A Mass Grave in the Belsen Camp

Take a good, long, hard look at the image in the link, and the others on that webpage, and then tell me again with a straight face that this is what Christians are facing in America.

Your words are despicable and low, not to mention deeply immoral. You are inexcusably arrogant. You need to pull your head out from where the sun doesn't shine, get over yourself, and get a more reasonable perspective on your life and how much you have to be thankful for that you DON'T live in a place where you are treated the way the Jews and others were in the Holocaust.
 
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tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
At the likely risk of being Poe'ned, I am going to address this rubbish.

Christians in America are mercilessly persecuted. We are like Jews in Nazi Germany.
First of all, the Jews in Germany were persecuted as an ethnic group, not as a religious belief. This comparison minimizes the Holocaust's effects on Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals and others while at the same time giving a false impression that Christians in modern America are forced into ghettos, hunted down, denied access to civil laws, rounded up and exterminated.
They wont let us pray in the schools,
There is no law to prevent you from praying in school.
There are, however, restrictions against a government funded school from endorsing any certain religion with school sponsored public prayer.
Remember what Jesus commanded in Mathew chapter 6.....
And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
they call us all kinds of names like bible thumper and holy roller
If being called a name is persecution, we all suffer from it.
I have been called a 'Dirty Hippie', a 'Peace Freak' and a 'Dirty Sinner' by a few fundamentalist Christians at a rally. Does this mean I am persecuted?
I have friends being called 'Fa***ts' and 'Hell-Bound'. Guess who is persecuting them?
and now they want to make gospel preaching a hate crime
Source? If you unable to provide a reliable source for this claim, I will have to assume you are being dishonest. Not a desirable trait for a Christian.


Teachers are not allowed to witness to their students.
Nor should they. As Government employees, they are restrained by the Constitution from endorsing any religion while on duty as educators.
Would you feel comfortable with a Muslim teacher proselytizing to our students? A Hindu teacher proselytizing in the classroom? Or even an Atheist teacher telling students God does not exist?
All these teachers are under the same restrictions as the Christian teacher.
A school teacher's job is to teach moral values to their students.
No, a teachers job is to educate their students in academics.
Parents are responsible for the moral upbringing of their children.
I have never seen Christians persecuting homosexuals.
Then you have not seen much of the world.
We want to lift them up to Jesus and see them get saved.
A noble cause I suppose. Although you may be surprised at the number of Christians who are also homosexual. And the number of homosexuals who follow their Constitutional right to not listen to you.
Hell is a very real place of literal burning eternal torment. You'll wish you listended to me if you end up there
You seem to be threatening persecution on non-Christians with this statement. Interesting.

A woman in Houston, Texas was ordered by local police to stop handing out gospel tracts to children who knocked on her door at halloween. She was told she would be arrested if she continued.
Again, please provide a reliable source for this story.
In Madison, Wisconsin, the Freedom from Religion Foundation distributes anti-Christian pamphlets to public school children entitled, "We Can Be Good Without God."
Source?
The entertainment industry and syndicated media increasingly vilify Christians as sewer rats, vultures, and simple-minded social ingrates.
All are subject to this. I am constantly amazed at the way history is mutilated by the entertainment industry. But they produce what the public wants to see.
The key is education.

Christian fundamentalists are labeled as hate groups and even terrorists.
Usually those who actually promote hate or actual Christian terrorist such as Eric Rudolph.
Hate crime legislation is aimed at silencing us on preaching against homosexuality because the homosexuals dont like the gospel.
You can preach all you want in your church. But when you hold up signs at a funeral that say "God Hates F**s", then yes, you are being hateful. And if you cross that line into committing a crime while doing so, it is indeed a hate crime.
The funny thing is we are the biggest victim of hate crimes and they say nothing.
Source? Without it, I will again have to assume your dishonesty.
You dont want teachers teaching kids about God
Because that is not their job and it is forbidden by the Constitution of these United States.
but you have no problem with them teaching evolution
Yes. I want my children to be educated in biology. Modern biology is built upon the foundations of biological evolution and the Theory of Evolution. My daughter wants to be a nurse and I expect her to know exactly how biology works.
and you expect me to be ok with it as well.
I expect nothing from you as long as you do not interfere in my children's science education.
Why the double standard?
No double standard. Science does not deal with the supernatural.

Yes, I meant what I said. Eventually, you will see Christians put in concentration camps and suffer all those horrors you mentioned that the Jews suffered under Hitler.

Pardon my bluntness, but your ignorance of reality is really quite embarrassing to other Christians. I only hope they can forgive you.
 
A Mass Grave in the Belsen Camp

Take a good, long, hard look at the image in the link, and the others on that webpage, and then tell me again with a straight face that this is what Christians are facing in America.

Your words are despicable and low, not to mention deeply immoral. You are inexcusably arrogant. You need to pull your head out from where the sun doesn't shine, get over yourself, and get a more reasonable perspective on your life and how much you have to be thankful for that you DON'T live in a place where you are treated the way the Jews and others were in the Holocaust.

How dare you call me arrogant. That really offends me and it also offends God. My heart is humble. It is not my righteousness but the righteousness of Christ which dwells in me. You put that link up there as a means of trivializing the plight of American Christians. It wont work. We are getting to the point where one day you will see Christians put in mass graves like that. I only pray the rapture happens before then. You will pay for the way you treat the Lord's servants.
 
At the likely risk of being Poe'ned, I am going to address this rubbish.


First of all, the Jews in Germany were persecuted as an ethnic group, not as a religious belief. This comparison minimizes the Holocaust's effects on Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals and others while at the same time giving a false impression that Christians in modern America are forced into ghettos, hunted down, denied access to civil laws, rounded up and exterminated.


There is no law to prevent you from praying in school.
There are, however, restrictions against a government funded school from endorsing any certain religion with school sponsored public prayer.
Remember what Jesus commanded in Mathew chapter 6.....
And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

I am not ashamed of my faith and I want to share it with others

If being called a name is persecution, we all suffer from it.
I have been called a 'Dirty Hippie', a 'Peace Freak' and a 'Dirty Sinner' by a few fundamentalist Christians at a rally. Does this mean I am persecuted?
I have friends being called 'Fa***ts' and 'Hell-Bound'. Guess who is persecuting them?

Youre not persecuted...if they did, in fact, call you those things, I am sure they meant it with love. People get a little overzealous sometimes. Christians are imperfect too and the same with your homosexual friends. Calling them a ****** was out of line but again we are imperfect. They are hell bound so telling them that is not persecution. It is discernment.

Source? If you unable to provide a reliable source for this claim, I will have to assume you are being dishonest. Not a desirable trait for a Christian.



Nor should they. As Government employees, they are restrained by the Constitution from endorsing any religion while on duty as educators.
Would you feel comfortable with a Muslim teacher proselytizing to our students? A Hindu teacher proselytizing in the classroom? Or even an Atheist teacher telling students God does not exist?
All these teachers are under the same restrictions as the Christian teacher.



No, a teachers job is to educate their students in academics.
Parents are responsible for the moral upbringing of their children.

Then you have not seen much of the world.

A noble cause I suppose. Although you may be surprised at the number of Christians who are also homosexual. And the number of homosexuals who follow their Constitutional right to not listen to you.

There is no such thing as a homosexual Christian. There are homosexuals who call themselves Christians but they arent. By the way, I prefer the term sodomite when talking of homosexuals

You seem to be threatening persecution on non-Christians with this statement. Interesting.

I am just warning them to repent and flee the wrath to come


Again, please provide a reliable source for this story.

Source?

All are subject to this. I am constantly amazed at the way history is mutilated by the entertainment industry. But they produce what the public wants to see.
The key is education.


Usually those who actually promote hate or actual Christian terrorist such as Eric Rudolph.

You can preach all you want in your church. But when you hold up signs at a funeral that say "God Hates F**s", then yes, you are being hateful. And if you cross that line into committing a crime while doing so, it is indeed a hate crime.

I dont protest funerals and how dare you compare me to Fred Phelps. I agree with you saying what he does is wrong but I am not like him

Source? Without it, I will again have to assume your dishonesty.

Because that is not their job and it is forbidden by the Constitution of these United States.

Yes. I want my children to be educated in biology. Modern biology is built upon the foundations of biological evolution and the Theory of Evolution. My daughter wants to be a nurse and I expect her to know exactly how biology works.

I expect nothing from you as long as you do not interfere in my children's science education.

The left wingers would love to do that to us though

No double standard. Science does not deal with the supernatural.



Pardon my bluntness, but your ignorance of reality is really quite embarrassing to other Christians. I only hope they can forgive you.



The left wingers would love to do that to us though.
I am not ashamed of my faith and I want to share it with others


Youre not persecuted...if they did, in fact, call you those things, I am sure they meant it with love. People get a little overzealous sometimes. Christians are imperfect too and the same with your homosexual friends. Calling them a ****** was out of line but again we are imperfect. They are hell bound so telling them that is not persecution. It is discernment.
I dont protest funerals and how dare you compare me to Fred Phelps. I agree with you saying what he does is wrong but I am not like him
There is no such thing as a homosexual Christian. There are homosexuals who call themselves Christians but they arent. By the way, I prefer the term sodomite when talking of homosexuals
 

EverChanging

Well-Known Member
How dare you call me arrogant. That really offends me and it also offends God. My heart is humble. It is not my righteousness but the righteousness of Christ which dwells in me. You put that link up there as a means of trivializing the plight of American Christians. It wont work. We are getting to the point where one day you will see Christians put in mass graves like that. I only pray the rapture happens before then. You will pay for the way you treat the Lord's servants.

Oh, how presumptuous of me to dare to call such a humble person arrogant...I suppose you might call down fire on me now....

Why don't you go and stroke your, erm, ego, some more.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
How dare you call me arrogant. That really offends me and it also offends God. My heart is humble
You are the one who is treading on thin ice. Just remember, you are communicating with people who have been victimized, whose family history was disrupted due to the Holocaust, and people whose existence is damned by society.
And you my friend are doing what Christ said not to do. You are openly judging and condemning gays, and even your fellow Christians by saying there is no such thing as a gay Christian. Perhaps you should read where Jesus said "Judge not, least you be judged yourself of the same accord. For how can you tell your brother "You have a splinter in your eye, let me remove it," when you have a mote in yours? You are claiming to know God's plan and how he will judge people, which I'm pretty sure is another no-no.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
You are committing a serious sin, you have blasphemed against the holy ghost.....hell is no laughing matter
You act as if this concerns us. Myself, I would rather go to hell than Heaven. At least I won't be forced to worship a deity that I see unfit of the title of "God," and does not deserve any of my praise or worship.
 
You are the one who is treading on thin ice. Just remember, you are communicating with people who have been victimized, whose family history was disrupted due to the Holocaust, and people whose existence is damned by society.
And you my friend are doing what Christ said not to do. You are openly judging and condemning gays, and even your fellow Christians by saying there is no such thing as a gay Christian. Perhaps you should read where Jesus said "Judge not, least you be judged yourself of the same accord. For how can you tell your brother "You have a splinter in your eye, let me remove it," when you have a mote in yours? You are claiming to know God's plan and how he will judge people, which I'm pretty sure is another no-no.

They are living in sin and they think it is ok. It is not ok. They have no right to say they are Christian. That is not judgment, that is discernment. You need to learn the difference. I do know God's plan because I know his word so you can kiss my butt.
 

EverChanging

Well-Known Member
You are committing a serious sin, you have blasphemed against the holy ghost.....hell is no laughing matter

And saying this to someone who does not believe in life after death is supposed to make me grovel before you in fear? You're pathetic.
 

ButTheCatCameBack

Active Member
You can pray in public schools. What you CAN'T do is have school sanctioned mandatory prayer. About the only thing I can say to the concept that Christians are persecuted in America is...you're not, but you are whining.

Every time I see a politician trip over themselves trying to show how Christian they are I laugh at the notion of Christian persecution in the U.S.
 

The Neo Nerd

Well-Known Member
I've been reading this and i think there are two posibilities.

A. He/she/it is a really really good poe.

or

B. He/she/it is so brainwashed by his/her/its religion that it will be impossible to change his/her/its mind on this.

Either way i think blatant mockery is the answer. If it's a poe then it will get a good laugh. If it's for real then you are wasting your time with anything else.

And i want to get into that.

-Q
 
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