Christians: Kill family who mentions other beliefs to you?

[Meow Mix]

If I held true to Judaism I would be commanded to kill you for blasphemy. However, I am commanded to love the enemies of God. You being one of them. I can judge nothing before the time. Your judgment is sealed. One day you will awaken to a nightmare of biblical proportions. Your education has swelled your head to maximum psi. The educated man is the one who refuses to view the world from the steeple of his own church.

I was just asking if you freely admit that the same god you worship is the same one that told people at one time to kill their family for petty reasons. If you think this god is an acceptable character morally (even if it isn't commanding YOU to do this murdering, but rather that you'd find it an acceptable moral character even if it commanded ANYONE at ANY TIME to do such a thing) then I disagree with your morals and could actually describe myself as frightened of you and what you might be capable of if you hold such a being in high regard.

In fact, that may already be true if you believe in a being that would torture someone for eternity and still believe this being to be good and just. Yes, I am definitely frightened of what you might be capable of because it seems you don't have a moral system that tells you it's wrong to torture or to murder; your moral system seems to have loopholes where it's OK for people to be murdered and tortured. That frightens me, I wouldn't ever want myself or my loved ones to be at your mercy in any regard.

 

[Revoltingest]

What scientific method do atheists use to from their conclusions?

I use Occam's Razor.

 

[Meow Mix]

I use Occam's Razor.

That's a good'un. I use Occam's Razor in conjunction with neutral skeptical scrutiny.

 

[Autodidact]

A tree is known by its fruits. An apple tree will not bear peaches. Therefore by their fruits you shall know them.

Do try to follow along here, Danmac. You said:

This is a command to those who practice Judaism, There are no such commands given to Christians.

I asked how you tell which commandments are for Jews, and which also apply to Christians. Your response made no sense.

 

[Autodidact]

The law kills, but the Spirit is life. I died so that I might be free to serve in newness of the Spirit, and not the oldness of the letter, which brings death.

Are you responding to some other posts? Your answers have nothing to do with what you're responding to. The question was whether the ten commandments apply to Christians. Try a yes or no answer, because the question had nothing to do with you, the Spirit, death, or any of that.

 

[Autodidact]

If I held true to Judaism I would be commanded to kill you for blasphemy. However, I am commanded to love the enemies of God. You being one of them. I can judge nothing before the time. Your judgment is sealed. One day you will awaken to a nightmare of biblical proportions. Your education has swelled your head to maximum psi. The educated man is the one who refuses to view the world from the steeple of his own church.

And the Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood.
What are you talking about?

 

[Autodidact]

What scientific method do atheists use to from their conclusions?

 

[waitasec]

The educated man is the one who refuses to view the world from the steeple of his own church.

figures...

 

[Danmac]

I was just asking if you freely admit that the same god you worship is the same one that told people at one time to kill their family for petty reasons. If you think this god is an acceptable character morally (even if it isn't commanding YOU to do this murdering, but rather that you'd find it an acceptable moral character even if it commanded ANYONE at ANY TIME to do such a thing) then I disagree with your morals and could actually describe myself as frightened of you and what you might be capable of if you hold such a being in high regard.

In fact, that may already be true if you believe in a being that would torture someone for eternity and still believe this being to be good and just. Yes, I am definitely frightened of what you might be capable of because it seems you don't have a moral system that tells you it's wrong to torture or to murder; your moral system seems to have loopholes where it's OK for people to be murdered and tortured. That frightens me, I wouldn't ever want myself or my loved ones to be at your mercy in any regard.

You should be busy picketing governments like Saudi Arabia that commands the hand to be cutoff for petty theft, and Iran for commanding women to be executed because of a one night stand. Is God to blame for these actions?

 

[Danmac]

Do try to follow along here, Danmac. You said: I asked how you tell which commandments are for Jews, and which also apply to Christians. Your response made no sense.

In a nutshell, the golden rule applies to all.

 

[smokydot]

Do try to follow along here, Danmac. You said: I asked how you tell which commandments are for Jews, and which also apply to Christians. Your response made no sense.

Only the Levitical laws and the statutes for governing Israel no longer apply.

The Levitical laws were abolished when Jesus fulfilled them all by being the new High Priest who offered the perfect sacrifice, without spot or blemsih, in atonement for the sin of those who believe in him, and when he became the mediator of a new covenant in his blood, as Moses was the mediator of the old covenant in the blood of an animal.

Israel ceased to be a national theocracy with the advent of the NT, so the statutes of its governance by God no longer apply.

 

[Autodidact]

In a nutshell, the golden rule applies to all.

I didn't ask you which is which. I asked you how do you tell which is which. Are you hard of understanding? This is the third time I've asked you a simple question.

 

[Zadok]

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage” (Deuteronomy 13:6-10, KJV).

Can any Christians help me understand the context of this?

When a society is at war for it very existence – how do you think insurgent traders seeking to overthrow that society from within should be dealt with?

Zadok

 

[Autodidact]

Only the Levitical laws and the statutes for governing Israel no longer apply.

The Levitical laws were abolished when Jesus fulfilled them all by being the new High Priest who offered the perfect sacrifice, without spot or blemsih, in atonement for the sin of those who believe in him, and when he became the mediator of a new covenant in his blood, as Moses was the mediator of the old covenant in the blood of an animal.

Israel ceased to be a national theocracy with the advent of the NT, so the statutes of its governance by God no longer apply.

O.K., so prohibition on man lying with man is out, and prohibition against making graven images is in, correct?

 

[Autodidact]

When a society is at war for it very existence – how do you think insurgent traders seeking to overthrow that society from within should be dealt with?

Zadok

Well, are the insurgent traders killing people, or just talking to them?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Well, are the insurgent traders killing people, or just talking to them?

I think that he means traitors.

 

[Autodidact]

I think that he means traitors.

Thanks, that does make more sense.

 

[waitasec]

Only the Levitical laws and the statutes for governing Israel no longer apply.

The Levitical laws were abolished when Jesus fulfilled them all by being the new High Priest who offered the perfect sacrifice, without spot or blemsih, in atonement for the sin of those who believe in him, and when he became the mediator of a new covenant in his blood, as Moses was the mediator of the old covenant in the blood of an animal.

Israel ceased to be a national theocracy with the advent of the NT, so the statutes of its governance by God no longer apply.

so why do christians consider homosexuality a sin today, since jesus never said anything about it?

 

[Father Heathen]

I can't say I know who he is.

Seriously? Bill Maher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I like the guy myself.

 

[Ben Masada]

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage” (Deuteronomy 13:6-10, KJV).

Can any Christians help me understand the context of this?

The text was written only as a warrant against that kind of idolatry by involving the parents, so these educated their children on the right way. There is no record of an execution for that reason.

Ben