Christians opposing Allah as name for God..

[Captain Civic]

"You are not under law but under grace" (Rom 6:14)
"The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death" (Rom 8:2)

In that sense.

 

[Jistyr]

English is a Germanic language, so it certainly makes sense that they would use the word God if it rooted in German. And if Christians were so concerned with speaking the language around which their religion is centered, they would not be speaking English. Arabic, Latin, or even Greek would suffice. Besides, I'm sure Christians want a distinction between their religion and Islam, so calling him God instead of Allah makes the two a little bit more easier to distinguish from one another.

I don't think this is a really crucial debate.

 

[Jon²]

I may be wrong on this but Jesus was Jewish right? Then he would not have spoken Aramaic, but Hebrew. I don't know where you get this idea that he spoke Aramaic.

Wikipedia ------> Aramaic

As for "what you should use for 'God''. If people spent as much time actually learning their faith as they did complaining about how others observe theirs, they might actually have some overall perspective. But what am I saying... Jesus was a white, brown haired, blue eyed living in the middle east, right?

 

[Mr. Peanut]

Hi!

I suppose there is absolutely nothing wrong for Arabic speaking people and even Arabic speaking Christians and their Bibles to use the name Allah for God. But for english speaking people it would not be appropriate. For one, it would make it seem as if we all (all the world) worship the God of Islam, Allah, which many (not all) of us see differences between Allah and God, whatever our religion and do not believe they are the same. Christians, for example, for the most part believe in Father, Son, and Holy Ghost making up God, whereas Islam denies this and believes Allah has no son. There are many differences in our beliefs on the attributes of God and doctrinal differences between our religions as well. For non-Arabic speaking Christians or anyone else to take up the name Allah may only further the desires for the spread of Islam and would falsely identify us with whom and what we do not believe.

Look at it this way, what would good Muslims say if we asked you to not call Allah, Allah anymore, but to call him God? Would that not insult and anger you? Individual religious freedom and expression are important rights people should all enjoy, and we all should have a right to call our God whatever name we will.

Cheers!

 

[Guitar's Cry]

It's all a matter of associations with a label. I suspect that Christians have a negative view of the name Allah (especially American Christians right now), and therefore find it inappropriate.

Being brought up with "God" and "Yeshua" and such in warm familiar settings like Church and home make the names warm and familiar.

In the end, it's all just labeling after all. A rose by any other name, eh?

 

[Don Penguinoini]

I cannot believe that Salaam seriously thinks that christians should call god Allah. Jains should call god Satan while they are it. No one else tries to FORCE their religion onto another, why you?

 

[England my lionheart]

What book,i think you are just a wind up

A child is born with no state of mind ,blind to the ways of mankind ,god is smiling on you but he is frowning too because only god knows what you'll go thru
Grandmasterflash and the furious five would'nt have been a hit without God in the lyric

 

[Jistyr]

But what am I saying... Jesus was a white, brown haired, blue eyed living in the middle east, right?

Are you saying he was white racially?

If so, I can assure you this is not the case. He is just painted to look white to make white people happy. He was almost definitely Arabic.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

That is it. All of you call god Ram Bhagwan. You wouldn't listen, would you. So i think, if i was a Christian, i would be pi***d of at the moment that he even DARE to say that.

 

[Jon²]

Are you saying he was white racially?

If so, I can assure you this is not the case. He is just painted to look white to make white people happy. He was almost definitely Arabic.

Wow... hi, my name is sarcasm.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

Wow... hi, my name is sarcasm.

That was good, i liked that...LOL!

 

[Jistyr]

Wow... hi, my name is sarcasm.

I wasn't sure, hence the 'if so', but I apologize anyways.

 

[Rowenn]

Semantics have nothing to do with the Supreme Being, in my oppinion... A Supreme Being would be beyond the need to be referred to as a specific term.. To believe otherwise is, within my perspective, a somewhat irrational action..

 

[nawab]

Peace, Mercy and blessings of allah be on all of you

i think it as a brother said before that why should english speakers call peoples name in arabic. actually the name isa for Jesus is same in Arabic and hebrew and as according to christians and jews he was a jew, so they should call his name in hebrew not in english - but unfortunatley for the western english speaking world they have a sickness of thinking of inferiority complex / White Pride so they translate anything into english. e.g Yusuf in Hebrew/Arabic but Joseph in english funny isnt it

Jesus himself called To Allah on the cross in the bible Elah Elah Lema Sabaktani (Allah, Allah why have thou forsaken me)he didnt say God, God why have thou forsaken me
Follow jesus not your english fathers

Jesus never spoke aramic, even if he did no one would understood - he cant talk in aramic to Romans or jews.

Nawab Asad

 

[look3467]

The heart knows by what name to call God.
Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Now, if you happen to know His name, then use it, if not, let your heart speak.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[mcteethinator]

anybody remember when the admirable Christian preacher suggested people of all religions could use the name Allah to refeerr to God? and then the fundamentalist ignorant false christiasn started opposing the idea/ saying it was not 'acceptable' to call God "Allah".

I just have to ask, Christiasn, how is this not acceptable to call God "Allah", but it is acceptable to call Him "god"? which is a GERMAN rooted word?!?

lets see... Jesus(pbuh) spoke Aramaic, correct? the Aramaic word for "God", is "Allaha", and Jesus spoke Aramaic, so Jesus called God "Allaha", now my question is, are the people of the christian religion THIS ignorant and ludacris, that they would consider it so unacceptable and wrong to call God "Allah", when the word "Allah" is almost PRECISELY the same name Jesus used for God?

Christians call God "god", or "Yahweh", or "Yeshua", Jesus HIMSELF called God "Allaha", or "Alaha", and the Muslims call God by the name of "Allah", not my serious question is, who is more Christ like in their naming of God? the Christians or the Muslims? and is it not ludacris to suggest that the same name Jesus used to pray to(almost same, pretty much IS the same when you think abou tit, because in many languages and ways of speaking Allah is spoken to or about in that manner "Allaha") is NOT Christ like, butt he word Hitler used for Allah IS acceptable?

this event and the reaction this brave minister got from his obviouskly insane brothers in religion, really made me look at Christians in today's day in a very negative way, and I believe any right minded perso nwould fee lthe same after comprehending this which I just learned you all.

what do you all think?

Basically, because that's the only name the Muslims call him. I suppose it follows the idea that we are worshipping in their religion and not ours if we use a word for God that is (generally speaking) only applied to the Islamic faith.

Of course, it's rubbish. Being bound by names is like being bound by law. Jesus set us free of law; why are they trying to lock us back up again?

English is a Germanic language, so it certainly makes sense that they would use the word God if it rooted in German. And if Christians were so concerned with speaking the language around which their religion is centered, they would not be speaking English. Arabic, Latin, or even Greek would suffice. Besides, I'm sure Christians want a distinction between their religion and Islam, so calling him God instead of Allah makes the two a little bit more easier to distinguish from one another.

I don't think this is a really crucial debate.

I cannot believe that Salaam seriously thinks that christians should call god Allah. Jains should call god Satan while they are it. No one else tries to FORCE their religion onto another, why you?

A lot of Christians do call God Allah. Arab Christians.

I may be wrong on this but Jesus was Jewish right? Then he would not have spoken Aramaic, but Hebrew. I don't know where you get this idea that he spoke Aramaic.

I hate to say Salaam is right, but Jesus did actually speak Aramaic, not Hebrew.

He was almost definitely Arabic.

No he was an Aramaic-speaking Jew. their are no Arab prophets in Christianity. Jews and Arabs = opposites. Jews from Isaac, Arabs from Ishmail. This was before the land of Palestine/Israel was Arabized. All the Arabs were nomadic tribes in the general area now called Saudi Arabia.

 

[nawab]

Peace, mercy and blessings of allah be on you all

Dear brother, what i am saying is Jesus was also from the Bani Israel ok it is a fact accoring to the quran, and Hebrew was a language which was called Abrew from Abrahimi or Abrani which the modern day Hebrew the older versions of the revelations were in Hebrew and Quran was in Arabic Hebrew and Arabic are sister languages as it is two lights divided but coming from the same source.

What proof do we have that Jesus spoke Aramic - This is just a Church Theory agreed by Western Historians to promote it and to go against the idea which is promoted in Islam - brother if you are a Muslim you should believe in the Quran rather than these historians who can jsut say anything they want

And Mary was from the tribe of Aarun the bro of MOses (PBUT all) they also spoke Hebrew before the Film Passion of Christ how many of us knew about Aramic Dude it is so clear. Christians were only a few handful of people at that time. Jesus was sent for the Jews not for the world as he says in Mathew 24:36 I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

I like to end my presentation of a verse from the quran

Soon we shall send them our signs, into the furtherst regions of the horizions, and into their soul until it is clear to them that this is truth Quran 41:53

May Allah give guidiance to all of you.

Nawab Aasd

A lot of Christians do call God Allah. Arab Christians.



I hate to say Salaam is right, but Jesus did actually speak Aramaic, not Hebrew.



No he was an Aramaic-speaking Jew. their are no Arab prophets in Christianity. Jews and Arabs = opposites. Jews from Isaac, Arabs from Ishmail. This was before the land of Palestine/Israel was Arabized. All the Arabs were nomadic tribes in the general area now called Saudi Arabia.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

Peace, mercy and blessings of allah be on you all
Soon we shall send them our signs, into the furtherst regions of the horizions, and into their soul until it is clear to them that this is truth Quran 41:53

And how do you planning on doing that? Peacefully?

 

[Rolling_Stone]

The literal translation of "Allah" is "the God," so I suppose the term can be used by any theistic religion. The problem, though, is that the literal translation can distance God from us and make him/her/it difficult to approach. It removes the intimacy by making God wholly other and arbitrary...something that is reflected in some Islamic teachings.

 

[nawab]

Dear Brother

We dont have to send our signs, the creator who has promissed shall do it.
it dosent means that we as muslims, it means we as Allah/God almighty

And how do you planning on doing that? Peacefully?