I am not using scripture as a basis for my statement, but what most Christians actually believe, and that is that there is a heaven and a hell and that most people will go to hell.
Ye and this beleif does not come from the scriptures, which is what I was trying to tell you. It is a man made belief
Firstly, I did not say that was to be found in scripture, but in Christian doctrine. Secondly, I stated that, since Christians claim that God created everything, everything must, by definition, include evil. And thirdly, if you want scripture, which I am not referring to, In Isaiah 45:7, the prophet wrote of God: I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.
Forming light and creating darkness, making peace and creating
calamity, I, Jehovah, am doing all these things
Now, I know you want to interpret this your way to mean something else, but the verse clearly indicates that God creates evil.
Calamity not Evil.
There is a difference. A loving God (God is LOVE 1 John 4:8) would not vreate evil, nor will he actually test us with it.
When I say that God created evil, I am referring to the scenario he creates for Adam and Eve, which can only be described as malicious and evil. The only point that God seems to want to make is that of obedience to his dictate, so much so, that he banishes his poor innocent children from Paradise for something he set up in the first place. Of course, I don't for one minute buy any of this trash, since it is a corruption of the original story by the greedy temple priests as a clever means of terrorizing their congregation into coughing up their dimes to line their pockets with.
James 1:13
When under trial, let no one say: I am being tried by God. For with evil things God cannot be tried
nor does he himself try anyone
He did not set up the situation. He gave them everything they needed to get through that particular test of their faith and obedience to him, but he did not set that up. He knew Satan was going to try something and thus gave them the information to get through it. They chose not to bey, just as Satan chise not to obey.
The Scriptures indicate that the creature known as Satan did not always have that name. Rather, this descriptive name was given to him because of his taking a course of opposition and resistance to God
God is the only Creator, and his activity is perfect, with no injustice or unrighteousness
Deu 32:4 The Rock,
perfect is his activity,
For all his ways are justice.
A God of faithfulness, with whom there is no injustice;
Righteous and upright is he.
Jesus Christ said of him: That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. (Joh 8:44; 1Jo 3:8) Jesus here shows that Satan was once in the truth, but forsook it. Beginning with his first overt act in turning Adam and Eve away from God, he was a manslayer, for he thereby brought about the death of Adam and Eve, which, in turn, brought sin and death to their offspring
Devil means Slanderer Satan Means Resister
But they did not die, so God did not mean what he said. He knew that by creating a taboo against eating the Forbidden Fruit, that Adam and Eve had no choice BUT to eat of it. How could they do otherwise? They did not stand a snowball's chance in hell, and God knew that. Or do you think God to be a fool?
Why I do not think that Jehovah is a fool. Because they did die. They died spiritually the moment that they sinned and they died physically within the 1000 years.
2Peter 3:8
However, let this one fact not be escaping YOUR notice, beloved ones, that
one day is with Jehovah as
a thousand years and a
thousand years as one day
Also the reason for "Judgement Day" to be 1000 years long.
They did die. He passed the judgement at that moment not only on them but also at Genesis 3:15 He passed Satans Judgement as well by saying
And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed.
He will bruise you in the head and
you will bruise him in the heel
This is also the first moment of us knowing that there was gonig to be a seed that would destroy hte wicked one known as Satan. This seed is actually Jesus Christ
Humans were not supposed to die to start wih, they were to live forever. Adam lost that for all humans, but Jesus gained it back, because his life was a ransom for what Adam lost.
Romans 5:12-17
That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned. For until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not charged against anyone when there is no law. Nevertheless, death ruled as king from Adam down to Moses, even over those who had not sinned after the likeness of the transgression by Adam, who bears a resemblance to him that was to come.
But it is not with the gift as it was with the trespass. For if by one mans trespass many died, the undeserved kindness of God and his free gift with the undeserved kindness by the one man Jesus Christ abounded much more to many. Also, it is not with the free gift as it was with the way things worked through the one [man] that sinned. For the judgment resulted from one trespass in condemnation, but the gift resulted from many trespasses in a declaration of righteousness. For if by the trespass of the one [man] death ruled as king through that one, much more will those who receive the abundance of the undeserved kindness and of the free gift of righteousness rule as kings in life through the one [person], Jesus Christ.
Ah, but it was God who created Satan in the first place. Satan's existence was entirely dependent upon God's hand, so therefore, all that was Satan was of God, and that included his rebellious nature, his pride, and his sin. But, you see, all of this points to the fact that it was not God who wrote the Bible, but man. We are looking at a description of the mind of God as seen through the mind of man. The Bible does not reflect the mind of God. God's mind does not work in the way the Bible describes it. I can give you many examples.
I would like those examples thanks the scrptures would be much appreciated so I can look for myself.
But
Jehovah created the Perfect Angel that later changed into satan. Just like the Angels that forsook their proper dwelling place in Noahs day and had relations with the human women and created their evil offspring the Nephilim, Satan was the same as them to start with, but allowed desire to lure him into become the "father of the lie" Just as their desire for the human women moved them to lure themselves to become what we know today as the Demons