Christmas Trees are Pagan

[FFH]

Out of curiousity, do you celebrate Easter, May Day, or Halloween?

I do not celebrate Halloween or Easter, both Pagan holidays, of course.

I do celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus Christ on the first week in April. I beleive He either died or was Ressurected on April 6th.

I believe that Jesus Christ was born in the fall. No one knows when Jesus was born and I am not against Christmas, I am only against the symbols of the holiday, esecially the Christmas tree.

 

[Evenstar]

The interesting thing about symbols is that their meanings are not constant. They mean one thing to one group of people and something else entirely to another group of people. That's why I think it's such a big mistake to label any symbol as pagan or Christian or Jewish or anything else. As my two cents worth applies to this particular post, though, red and green may very well have significance to the pagans. On the other hand, red is said by the Christians to represent Christ's blood and the green to represent new life.

Maybe so.... but the post was about pagans, thats why I said what I did.

 

[revron]

Despite the fact that Christmas was originally a pagan holiday and has become so commercially corrupt that many feel that it is best to refrain from participating, I would like to emphasize the following;
1) That giving during the holidays (regardless of what holiday it is) can be a joyous thing, in fact serving others before yourself can be more gratifying simply because it is a selfless act (as long as there is no expectation or any return other than the feel-good one) and of course Christmas is somewhat synonmous with giving (and don't get me started on how every child or person on your list expects expensive and numerous gifts, because that my friends is how we get sucked into the cycle in the first place).
2) Everyday should be like "'Tis the season for giving", Christmas is a day, like every other day, I praise God that I wake in the morning to test my resolve in a world gone mad. Never before have so many been tempted and I try everyday to pass the tests that are set before me. So I give myself to the day hopefully walking and talking as Jesus taught.
3) Family is the most important thing we have as we can influence them to follow us by example (and by family I do not necessarily mean those we are born with, but loved ones, friends, co-workers, perhaps even those now reading this post, the list goes on), every person we touch in our daily life can be influenced either directly or indirectly by the things we do, kind of like a ripple from a raindrop in the pond.
4) In a hundred years will the things we do today really matter? I would like to think that if we are doing our job properly today (that is teaching those around us good principles and actually living them) that yes, our impact upon the lives of others is significant, which of is what any holiday should be about, reminding us of the things that are important, or as MasterCard eloquently puts it...priceless (sorry for the cliche).

 

[Draka]

I do not celebrate Halloween or Easter, both Pagan holidays, of course.

I do celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus Christ on the first week in April. I beleive He either died or was Ressurected on April 6th.

I believe that Jesus Christ was born in the fall. No one knows when Jesus was born and I am not against Christmas, I am only against the symbols of the holiday, esecially the Christmas tree.

I have never heard the bit about the first week of April. I have always heard the thing about the first Sunday after the first full moon after the first day of Spring or whatnot. I'd be interested in hearing whyy you believe the date of April 6th.

I agree that Jesus was born in the Fall actually.

I guess what surprises the most is that your stance on these things sounds more JW than LDS to most of us. Don't get me wrong, I respect how you view these things and I certainly wouldn't disagree with what you have said. It's just that most Christians don't seem to see it that way and I find it remarkable that you hold so dearly to exacts when so many others are just willing to go with the flow of tradition. Nothing wrong with either stance really. Just interesting is all.

 

[FFH]

I have never heard the bit about the first week of April. I have always heard the thing about the first Sunday after the first full moon after the first day of Spring or whatnot. I'd be interested in hearing whyy you believe the date of April 6th.

I agree that Jesus was born in the Fall actually.

I guess what surprises the most is that your stance on these things sounds more JW than LDS to most of us. Don't get me wrong, I respect how you view these things and I certainly wouldn't disagree with what you have said. It's just that most Christians don't seem to see it that way and I find it remarkable that you hold so dearly to exacts when so many others are just willing to go with the flow of tradition. Nothing wrong with either stance really. Just interesting is all.

I only said the first week in April as a general time when the death and resurrection happened. Of course the first Sunday would be the appropriate time to celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.

I believe that Jesus was crucified on the first Thursday, in April, and was resurrected on a the first Sunday, in April. So, of course I celebrate His resurrection on the first Sunday, in April.

Born in the Fall died in the Spring.

The reason I think that Jesus Christ was resurrected on April 6th is because of the fact that Jesus Christ restored his true church (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) to earth on April 6th in the 1800's. I forget the exact year.

 

[Katzpur]

Faith,

I do not celebrate Halloween or Easter, both Pagan holidays, of course.

What do you believe the rest of your fellow Latter-day Saints are celebrating when they go to church on Easter -- the arrival of the Easter Bunny?

I do celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus Christ on the first week in April. I beleive He either died or was Ressurected on April 6th.[/quote]You celebrate the Resurrection, but you don't celebrate Easter? Would you explain that one, please. Jesus Christ did not die on April 6 nor was He resurrected on April 6. Where are you coming up with that information?

I believe that Jesus Christ was born in the fall. No one knows when Jesus was born and I am not against Christmas, I am only against the symbols of the holiday, esecially the Christmas tree.

Why do you believe He was born in the Fall? Is this some doctrine I've missed out on over the years?

Kathryn

 

[FFH]

I believe Jesus Christ was born in the Fall because a census was being taken and taxes were being paid at the time of His birth. This most likely would have been done in the Fall, at the end of the Jewish calendar year, and at the end of the harvest.

 

[FFH]

if you look up the word Easter on www.dictionary.com it is a form of the name Eostre, a Godess of the Saxons. Easter is a Pagan holiday not a Christian one. We just happen to celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus Christ at the same time.

 

[jonny]

Faith,

What on earth is wrong with pagans?!? A holiday is what you make out of it. Who cares where it came from? I don't.

Your prejudice is certainly showing here...

 

[jeffrey]

Faith,

What on earth is wrong with pagans?!? A holiday is what you make out of it. Who cares where it came from? I don't.

Your prejudice is certainly showing here...

You said a mouthful! My wife has pagan roots before meeting me. If I might suggest, read the forums, You will be suprised how 'down to earth' (sorry, couldn't pass that one up!) they are.

 

[Katzpur]

I only said the first week in April as a general time when the death and resurrection happened. Of course the first Sunday would be the appropriate time to celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.

I believe that Jesus was crucified on the first Thursday, in April, and was resurrected on a the first Sunday, in April. So, of course I celebrate His resurrection on the first Sunday, in April.

Born in the Fall died in the Spring.

The reason I think that Jesus Christ was resurrected on April 6th is because of the fact that Jesus Christ restored his true church (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) to earth on April 6th in the 1800's. I forget the exact year.

I think you'd better check your facts before you post them in the future, Faith.

 

[Katzpur]

I guess what surprises the most is that your stance on these things sounds more JW than LDS to most of us.

Faith is entitled to his opinion, of course, as are we all. But his point of view does not represent the view of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. As a matter of fact, I've never met a member of my church who believes as he does. I just felt that ought to be clarified.

 

[FFH]

You said a mouthful! My wife has pagan roots before meeting me. If I might suggest, read the forums, You will be suprised how 'down to earth' (sorry, couldn't pass that one up!) they are.

"down to earth"

That is funny

I guess i am just heavenly minded. Always thinking about the next life and not satisfied with this life and all of it's Pagan traditions. Truely there are a lot of Pagan traditions in our society.

 

[Katzpur]

My wife has pagan roots before meeting me. If I might suggest, read the forums, You will be suprised how 'down to earth' (sorry, couldn't pass that one up!) they are.

No kidding! Well, that would explain why she's such a nice person. A long time back, before you two started posting on this forum, I started a thread about why I like pagans. They really are down to earth, genuine, non-judgmental people. Who could help but like them?

 

[Aqualung]

Who's his wife?! I'm always left out of the circles...

 

[jonny]

"down to earth"

That is funny

I guess i am just heavenly minded. Always thinking about the next life and not satisfied with this life and all of it's Pagan traditions. Truely there are a lot of Pagan traditions in our society.

There is truth in all religion. Instead of avoiding faiths you should try to learn from them. Utahns could definitly use a lesson in respect for nature and the environment. We might not worship the earth, but we worship its creator and the earth is one of his most important creations.

 

[FFH]

Who's his wife?! I'm always left out of the circles...

She is a Pagan. Read the previous posts

 

[Aqualung]

She is a Pagan. Read the previous posts

I know "she" is pagan. I asked who she was. Read my previous posts.

 

[Evenstar]

This fries my head, here you are preaching God, but you wont celebrate any holidays because they are pagan. How Christian of you.

My roots were pagan, and I am proud to say that, I am now a Christian, My christmas is pulled between the two... but mostly my christmas is for my kids.​

I think you need to lighten up

 

[Evenstar]

She is a Pagan. Read the previous posts

No im his wife, and thanks Kat. And im not a true pagan any more.... just thought I would add that. But I still hold close alot of thier beliefs, Faith. Maybe in your eyes this makes me a evil nasty woman, but at least im open minded.