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Classical Concert in Florida Cancelled

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
Thank you. And no:( It was a brainfart on my part:oops::oops:

It should, and now does say "subjective" instead of "moral". A typo is not as bad of an error.

EDIT: I did have to edit this post because I did have a typo in it. Muphry's Law strikes again!
I felt typo sounded better than brainfart :)
 

lukethethird

unknown member
That's the problem... it was your twisted "in MY view" that saw what you wanted to see you so could join the two and be insulting to those who have chosen a homosexual lifestyle.

You were the one that brought up nambla because you were trying to make a point about this event being cancelled because of a gay performer, if that's not insulting to homosexuals everywhere, I don't know what is.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
There shouldn't be anything wrong with nudity. The human body is natural, and aversion to it is purely irrational, arbitrary cultural baggage.
Somehow gorillas and lizards don't figure how to sew and make garments for themselves.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
That's the problem... it was your twisted "in MY view" that saw what you wanted to see you so could join the two and be insulting to those who have chosen a homosexual lifestyle.
Do you think a homosexual lifestyle includes singing in groups?

And do you think Christian institutions should prejudice against gays, or just leave it to indivdual Christians?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
This is a very unempathetic comment. People who take their own life out of distress usually want the pain to end. They usually value their lives, but they can no longer bear the struggles they are facing.
As I said, there probably are social workers or doctors to help prevent homosexuals from killing themselves. I'm not going any much further with this, I believe what is written in the Bible, the same restrictions are put on adultery. So -- we all make choices. The End of my discussion with you about this.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Do you think a homosexual lifestyle includes singing in groups?

I'm not quite sure what you are saying here. Homosexuals can sing, dance, work and live life.

And do you think Christian institutions should prejudice against gays, or just leave it to indivdual Christians?

I think you used the word prejudice incorrectly if you are speaking generally.

prejudice
prĕj′ə-dĭs
noun
  1. The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions.
  2. An adverse judgment or opinion formed unfairly or without knowledge of the facts.
  3. Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular social group, such as a race or the adherents of a religion.
Are there unreasonable prejudices? Absolutely - and in every camp and shouldn't be so

Do I support the right of Christians and Christian organization to establish their moral codes as long as they aren't unreasonable, irrational, suspicious or hateful?

I believe they should be able and should have a right to.
 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
I'm not quite sure what you are saying here. Homosexuals can sing, dance, work and live life.
Do you think the concert should have been cancelled due to a gay person singing?
I think you used the word prejudice incorrectly if you are speaking generally.

prejudice
prĕj′ə-dĭs
noun
  1. The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions.
  2. An adverse judgment or opinion formed unfairly or without knowledge of the facts.
  3. Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular social group, such as a race or the adherents of a religion.
Are there unreasonable prejudices? Absolutely - and in every camp and shouldn't be so
This is what I meant. Do you think it appropriate that Christian organizations prejudice against gays?

Do I support the right of Christians and Christian organization to establish their moral codes as long as they aren't unreasonable, irrational, suspicious or hateful?
Bigotry is immoral and hateful, and that includes judging people for their sexual orientation. Why would Christians prejudice against gays at all?

I believe they should be able and should have a right to.
Morals like not committing fraud or lying to others, yes. But judging others for who they are? Is that moral? Is that reasonable?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Do you think the concert should have been cancelled due to a gay person singing?

I don't know what their "code of conduct" is. If their code of conduct prevents them from letting them sing, then they have that right.

This is what I meant. Do you think it appropriate that Christian organizations prejudice against gays?

I believe I answered that question and to quote, "Are there unreasonable prejudices? Absolutely - and in every camp and shouldn't be so"

Bigotry is immoral and hateful, and that includes judging people for their sexual orientation. Why would Christians prejudice against gays at all?

All Christian don't have irrational prejudices against homosexuals. Certainly, as I mentioned above, there should be prejudices.

Let me make it more biblical:

2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

Are these judgmental? Not at all. Are they prejudices? nope. They are simply requirements for that position. If you are a "supervisor" - there are requirements. If you are a "doctor" there are requirements.


Morals like not committing fraud or lying to others, yes. But judging others for who they are? Is that moral? Is that reasonable?

I'm not sure what you are saying here. Are you saying what is moral and what isn't is determined by you or a group of certain people and if they say what is moral and what isn't, they would be correct?
 
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