Classical Concert in Florida Cancelled

[SkepticThinker]

I don't follow your point. Are you saying you would have anyone speak and/or play music to you no matter what their lifestyle was?

A gay person's "lifestyle" is the same as any other human being's lifestyle is.

 

[metis]

IMO, well established scientific axioms based on overwhelming data should be reflected in our religious practice, and we well know that sexual identity is mostly related to our hormone levels, testosterone v estrogen. Now, which lifestyle we chose to choose is pretty much up to the individual cognitively.

Therefore, my recommendation: If seeing someone at a concert who may be gay would bother you, then maybe don't go, but please don't try to force your viewpoint on others.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Exactly... who holds the standard.



What about it? If you want to have a homosexual lifestyle, you have every right! Heterosexuals aren't "holier" than homosexuals. At least in my signature position "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God". It is why we share Jesus to everyone.

Is there a reason why you want to make it an issue?

Why are they acting as though they are better then?

 

[SkepticThinker]

I didn't ask him. It doesn't matter in that context, whether he was straight or not. Similarly, a woman who wears low cut clothing where her breasts are largely exposed to the general public is parallel to that in terms of one's conduct. I was thinking though, if a woman can expose her breasts to the general public, would you say it's 'ok' if a man wears his pants where he exposes penis to a degree, large or small naked degree? As far as a "Christian college" not allowing homosexual members of the chorus to be part of it is virtually parallel to the idea that people can go around exposing their breasts and penises to a large extent if they so desire. Would you agree that people should be free to go half-naked, if not entirely naked in public? If yes, why. If no, why.

Where I live it's legal for women to go topless. Or to breast feed in public. Breasts aren't inherently sexual in nature.

I didn't ask him. It doesn't matter in that context, whether he was straight or not. Similarly, a woman who wears low cut clothing where her breasts are largely exposed to the general public is parallel to that in terms of one's conduct. I was thinking though, if a woman can expose her breasts to the general public, would you say it's 'ok' if a man wears his pants where he exposes penis to a degree, large or small naked degree? As far as a "Christian college" not allowing homosexual members of the chorus to be part of it is virtually parallel to the idea that people can go around exposing their breasts and penises to a large extent if they so desire. Would you agree that people should be free to go half-naked, if not entirely naked in public? If yes, why. If no, why.

How do you feel about Renaissance paintings?

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

He was talking about the North American Meteorological Bureau of Land Assessment.

There's also this:

North American Marlon Brando Look-Alikes | South Park Archives | Fandom

there probably are social workers or doctors to help prevent homosexuals from killing themselves

There are:

LGBTQ+ : Lifeline (988lifeline.org)
LGBTQ crisis and support resources | AFSP
LGBTQ - Prevent Suicide PA
Depression, Anxiety & Suicide LGBTQ+ Support | CSSNV

Why do you suppose that that is necessary? Is there also a suicide prevention program for people being despondent over their heterosexuality? I guess not. I Googled it, but got no hits.

 

[SkepticThinker]

They go naked on pride day in Toronto? lol, me oh my. So does that mean that it's as far as standards go in the U.S. or England or other countries like that go around bare-breasted and showing genitals or partial in public (not talking about beaches where nudity is permitted in the U.S., but stores, large metropolises, subways, etc.). What do you think? Some schools have dress codes -- I went to a concert recently where t-shirts were not acceptable for men to wear in the audience. You think maybe that should be pushed to allow t-shirts? what if in a family a teenage girl or mother decided to go around naked in general at dinnertime and the parents didn't like it? So anyway -- no more about this because you obviously think it's not fair by the college to prevent homosexuals practicing that behavior to be part of the community as approved by the standards of the college.

"Practicing that behavior"
What behaviour?

 

[F1fan]

Only when its exploited. This year Nantucket Massachusetts has voted to allow all nude beaches.

That's terrible. It shouldn't be allowed. How can a moral, decent, upright society allow such a thing?

Where exactly in Nantucket?

 

[Father Heathen]

I don't follow your point. Are you saying you would have anyone speak and/or play music to you no matter what their lifestyle was?

The question that should be asked is if one's "lifestyle" seeks to victimize or violate the rights and liberty of others. That should be the basis of objection or condemnation.

 

[Father Heathen]

No, that's not what he was doing.

He was trying to demonstrate that different people think different things are harmful, different people than different things are healthy.

The people who canceled the show probably do , to some extent, put homosexuality in the same category as pedophilia, since from the viewpoint of Orthodox Christianity anything other than heterosexual sex is a perversion.

That's the point.

Whether they're right or wrong about the comparison is a completely different discussion. And whether or not anyone in this thread agrees with that perspective is neither here nor there.

The topic isn't all that clear since the only question in the OP was, "Where will it end?" but assuming there's supposed to be a topic, I would guess it would have to be something along the lines of, "Did the college have the right to do what they did? Or are they just being ****s?"

Does a religious institution have a right to bar entry based on what they would see as violations of their religious precepts?



And you've been here long enough to know that just because somebody is trying to explain a particular position or viewpoint doesn't automatically mean that that they share that position or viewpoint.

(And actually I think you do know that. I think you're just engaging in an over-extended cheap shot here).

And even if someone does, privately, buy into a particular viewpoint, no one has a right to call them on it based on an assumption.



Probably for the same reasons that most people's morality is, in practice at least, arbitrary and superficial.

Noted.

@Kenny sorry for being a meanie.

 

[viole]

I guess different standards? I don't watch porn because I have my own standards - no matter how good the music is.

Would you prohibit the concert of your preferred band, if one of them is known to watch pornos?

do you invite only sinless bands? or only bands that lie about their sins?

ciao

- viole

 

[metis]

How do you feel about Renaissance paintings?

Or even in the Vatican.

 

[metis]

Where I live it's legal for women to go topless. Or to breast feed in public. Breasts aren't inherently sexual in nature.

I remember being on the train going from Windsor to Toronto and seeing a woman on her riding lawnmower topless. In Quebec, it's quite commonplace.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I remember being on the train going from Windsor to Toronto and seeing a woman on her riding lawnmower topless. In Quebec, it's quite commonplace.

Sounds like a great way to get a nice tan. No lines.

The only time I've ever seen a topless woman walking down the street was back when it was first legalized. I haven't seen another one since. But then again, I haven't been to Quebec in quite a while either.
I remember being at a resort in the Dominican many years ago and it seemed like almost everyone from Europe was topless all over the beach. My husband got "lost" a few hundred times on that trip.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I remember being on the train going from Windsor to Toronto and seeing a woman on her riding lawnmower topless. In Quebec, it's quite commonplace.

Everyone has nipples.

 

[metis]

The only time I've ever seen a topless woman walking down the street was back when it was first legalized. I haven't seen another one since. But then again, I haven't been to Quebec in quite a while either.

I didn't see any in the streets in Quebec but often at pools and in parks suntanning. In Sweden, it's even more commonplace than in Quebec.

IOW, it's not a big deal.

BTW, a study done several decades ago found that a partially clad woman or man is usually more a turn-on than a completely naked one.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I didn't see any in the streets in Quebec but often at pools and in parks suntanning. In Sweden, it's even more commonplace than in Quebec.

IOW, it's not a big deal.

BTW, a study done several decades ago found that a partially clad woman or man is usually more a turn-on than a completely naked one.

That is because those that tend to go nude, really should not go nude


And that applies to both sexes.

 

[lukethethird]

No, that's not what he was doing.

He was trying to demonstrate that different people think different things are harmful, different people than different things are healthy.

The people who canceled the show probably do , to some extent, put homosexuality in the same category as pedophilia, since from the viewpoint of Orthodox Christianity anything other than heterosexual sex is a perversion.

That's the point.

Whether they're right or wrong about the comparison is a completely different discussion. And whether or not anyone in this thread agrees with that perspective is neither here nor there.

The topic isn't all that clear since the only question in the OP was, "Where will it end?" but assuming there's supposed to be a topic, I would guess it would have to be something along the lines of, "Did the college have the right to do what they did? Or are they just being ****s?"

Does a religious institution have a right to bar entry based on what they would see as violations of their religious precepts?



And you've been here long enough to know that just because somebody is trying to explain a particular position or viewpoint doesn't automatically mean that that they share that position or viewpoint.

(And actually I think you do know that. I think you're just engaging in an over-extended cheap shot here).

And even if someone does, privately, buy into a particular viewpoint, no one has a right to call them on it based on an assumption.



Probably for the same reasons that most people's morality is, in practice at least, arbitrary and superficial.

Not buying it. Kenny had every opportunity to answer simple yes or no questions to clarify why he brought nambla into the discussion and he was totally evasive.

 

[Quagmire]

Not buying it. Kenny had every opportunity to answer simple yes or no questions to clarify why he brought nambla into the discussion and he was totally evasive.

There's this homeless guy in my town. Every time I walk by him he screams at me to stop reading his mind.

In spite of the fact that I've had plenty of opportunities to do so, I've never once stopped to try to convince him that I don't actually read people's minds.

Guess I'm being evasive.

 

[Secret Chief]

There's this homeless guy in my town. Every time I walk by him he screams at me to stop reading his mind.

In spite of the fact that I've had plenty of opportunities to do so, I've never once stopped to try to convince him that I don't actually read people's minds.

Guess I'm being evasive.

So what do you make of:


"The gay member is harming no one and in fact brings pleasure to thousands of listeners.Gay does not mean child molester murderer, rapist."
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"But there are people who would hold to sex with young people is perfectly good like NAMBLA."

 

[Quagmire]

So what do you make of:


"The gay member is harming no one and in fact brings pleasure to thousands of listeners.Gay does not mean child molester murderer, rapist."
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"But there are people who would hold to sex with young people is perfectly good like NAMBLA."

How about linking to those posts so I can read it in context.