Clear prophecy in the Bible about prophet Muhammad

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Beautiful nickname bro, welcome to the forum.

Brother, the Jews recognizes Muhammad PBUH more than they recognize their own sons. So dont worry about their fate in here after, and believe until the death comes to you.

 

[leibowde84]

Muhammad is the messenger of all mankind, it does not matter if they follow him or not.

"Say (O Muhammad): O mankind! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah to you all - (the messenger of) Him unto Whom belongeth the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth. There is no God save Him. He quickeneth and He giveth death. So believe in Allah and His messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write, who believeth in Allah and in His Words, and follow him that haply ye may be led aright." (Quran 7:158)

Now, tell me: What was this prophecy predicting if not Muhammad peace be upon him ?!!
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Christianity maybe.

 

[leibowde84]

Beautiful nickname bro, welcome to the forum.

Brother, the Jews recognizes Muhammad PBUH more than they recognize their own sons. So dont worry about their fate in here after, and believe until the death comes to you.

In what way do the Jews recognize Muhammad?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

In what way do the Jews recognize Muhammad?

They recoynize him when Rabbis says its allowed for Jews to pray in Mosques and forbidden to pray in Church( christianity is suspected of idolatry).

If Jews says islam is falsehood it means Abraham, Moses, Noah and their messages was false too. That would be shooting in ur own legs.

 

[rosends]

They recoynize him when Rabbis says its allowed for Jews to pray in Mosques and forbidden to pray in Church( christianity is suspected of idolatry).

If Jews says islam is falsehood it means Abraham, Moses, Noah and their messages was false too. That would be shooting in ur own legs.

Actually, the Jewish law being referenced has to do with acknowledging the monotheistic underpinnings of Islam, not Muhammad or anything like that.

A Jew who says Islam is false is saying that there was no divine communication with Muhammad and the versions of events as recorded in the Quran are wrong. As Abraham, Moses and Noah had nothing to do with the religion of Islam (as opposed to the non-capitalized concept of islam, submission to the will of God), rejecting the religion has no bearing on the relationship of Jews to the biblical figures.

 

[Rival]

If Jews says islam is falsehood it means Abraham, Moses, Noah and their messages was false too. That would be shooting in ur own legs.

And you actually believe this?

Ugh.

This level of ignorance is the reason why no-one takes Muslim arguments seriously.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Actually, the Jewish law being referenced has to do with acknowledging the monotheistic underpinnings of Islam, not Muhammad or anything like that.

A Jew who says Islam is false is saying that there was no divine communication with Muhammad and the versions of events as recorded in the Quran are wrong. As Abraham, Moses and Noah had nothing to do with the religion of Islam (as opposed to the non-capitalized concept of islam, submission to the will of God), rejecting the religion has no bearing on the relationship of Jews to the biblical figures.

How can the message of One God be right and yet the message be false?


So if the communication was false, then u mean Devil spoke to Muhammad pbuh?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

And you actually believe this?

Ugh.

This level of ignorance is the reason why no-one takes Muslim arguments seriously.

Rival, iam 100% sure about truth of Islam that i would challenge a person to invoke God's wrath in hereafter to fall upon the liar.

 

[Tumah]

How can the message of One God be right and yet the message be false?


So if the communication was false, then u mean Devil spoke to Muhammad pbuh?

No, its not something special about Islam. Any purely monotheistic religion has this status. Baha'i is the same. According to some rabbis, Christianity is also the same.
Any religion that derives its monotheism from the Torah will probably be ok, because the beliefs are already laid out there. Christianity is the odd one out according to some rabbis, because of the trinity. But a non-trinitarian church would also be ok.
It could be that even some non-Abrahamic monotheistic religions would be ok.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Just about every Muslim country has said the Baha'i Faith is not a Muslim religion.

1925 verdict of high Egyptian Court...

The Baha'i Faith is a new religion, entirely independent, with beliefs, principles and laws of its own, which differ from, and are utterly in conflict with, the beliefs, principles and laws of Islam. No Baha'i, therefore, can be regarded a Muslim or vice-versa, even as no Buddhist, Brahmin, or Christian can be regarded a Muslim or vice-versa."

You misunderstand me. I didn't mean that Bahais are a sect of Islam or that Muslims see them that way. That's why I called them a 'religion' (as in a faith in its own right), not a sect (of Islam). What I meant was that from a Muslim point of view, Bahais are upstarts because they co-opt Islamic tenets and add their own on top - violating the doctrines that Muhammad is Allah's final messenger and that Islam is the final, complete & perfect religion.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

No, its not something special about Islam. Any purely monotheistic religion has this status. Baha'i is the same. According to some rabbis, Christianity is also the same.
Any religion that derives its monotheism from the Torah will probably be ok, because the beliefs are already laid out there. Christianity is the odd one out according to some rabbis, because of the trinity. But a non-trinitarian church would also be ok.
It could be that even some non-Abrahamic monotheistic religions would be ok.

Would it be acceptable for Jews to pray in a Zoroastrian fire temple, for instance?

 

[Tumah]

Would it be acceptable for Jews to pray in a Zoroastrian fire temple, for instance?

I don't know enough about Zoroastrian beliefs to answer that. And I'm also not 100% sure whether there are other requirements as well that would already be inherent in any religion derived from Tanach. I'm also only a layman, and not qualified to conclusively answer such a question, I could only theorize.

But I would think that if there is no worship of anything other than one sole creator god without any worship directed at a physical thing, there is probably room to discuss it.

 

[Desert Snake]

No, its not something special about Islam. Any purely monotheistic religion has this status. Baha'i is the same. According to some rabbis, Christianity is also the same.
Any religion that derives its monotheism from the Torah will probably be ok, because the beliefs are already laid out there. Christianity is the odd one out according to some rabbis, because of the trinity. But a non-trinitarian church would also be ok.
It could be that even some non-Abrahamic monotheistic religions would be ok.

This is interesting, because Islam actually seems to have the position that the Torah is completely messed up, the entire 'Bible', actually. including the Deity names/inferences, so forth

 

[ukok102nak]

And you actually believe this?

Ugh.

This level of ignorance is the reason why no-one takes Muslim arguments seriously.

~;> also
some of those protestants
with this level of ignorance is the reason why no-one takes the protest into arguments seriously.


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godbless
unto all always

 

[Tumah]

This is interesting, because Islam actually seems to have the position that the Torah is completely messed up, the entire 'Bible', actually. including the Deity names/inferences, so forth

The main points when it comes to G-d are there though. They don't need to get the personalities of the Torah correctly. Just the general ideas as they relate to G-d.

 

[Desert Snake]

The main points when it comes to G-d are there though. They don't need to get the personalities of the Torah correctly. Just the general ideas as they relate to G-d.

The general ideas don't include G-d's names, so forth? You mean, just the general idea in some vague sense. That is still interesting to me, because then we are talking about 'inferences', from /said religions. However, that seems subjective.
ok..

 

[Tumah]

The general ideas don't include G-d's names, so forth? You mean, just the general idea in some vague sense. That is still interesting to me, because then we are talking about 'inferences', from /said religions. However, that seems subjective.
ok..

No, the name doesn't matter and anyways, the name All-h is just the Arabic word for G-d and has a very similar Hebrew counterpart Aramaic counterpart El-h.
After that I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

 

[Akivah]

This is interesting, because Islam actually seems to have the position that the Torah is completely messed up, the entire 'Bible', actually. including the Deity names/inferences, so forth

From what I've read, Islam does the exact same thing with the Hebrew bible that Christianity does. They claim that our bible is distorted from the original, but then they take quotes from our bible to support their religion. Both say the parts that support their religion is good, but the parts that don't support their religion have been distorted. Cherry-picking, I believe its called. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking

 

[ukok102nak]

~;> as they say
But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeks such to worship him.

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


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godbless
unto all always

 

[Desert Snake]

No, the name doesn't matter and anyways, the name All-h is just the Arabic word for G-d and has a very similar Hebrew counterpart Aramaic counterpart El-h.
After that I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

*shrugs*, ok..
The 'name' infers the actual Deity, /aside from 'Allah'/Aramaic, so, if the position that the ''name'' of the Deity is wrong, then it follows they think the Deity is wrong as well. Besides actually hearing inference to such in some Islamic statements. But , whatever, it's your rules, /about where you can pray/