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Cohabitation before Marriage | Good or Bad

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I can't imagine marrying someone without living with them first. There are so many issues which can arise. Why wait to see if you are compatible?

I know someone on her second marriage.
She told me she was sure her first marriage would work because they were living together first.

How do you explain the divorce rate of people who first lived together before marriage?
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend ToD,

Cohabitation before Marriage | Good or Bad
Just another *thought*: Why marry when one can cohabit.
The term marriage bring its duality *divorce* by default.
If true love is there love itself is the commitment for life and beyond!

Love & rgds
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
Friend ToD,


Just another *thought*: Why marry when one can cohabit.
The term marriage bring its duality *divorce* by default.
If true love is there love itself is the commitment for life and beyond!

Love & rgds

Marriage as a legal institution exists to provide protection for and clarity of asset/property ownership. It helps to know who will own the home, car, have custody of dependents, etc if one of the members in a couple dies or becomes unable to care for these things.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Marriage as a legal institution exists to provide protection for and clarity of asset/property ownership. It helps to know who will own the home, car, have custody of dependents, etc if one of the members in a couple dies or becomes unable to care for these things.

I know of course that two people who live together can love each other just as fiercely as two people who are married.

However, you bring up a good point. There's an added level of commitment and trust when you factor in the legal aspects of marriage. This does impact the relationship.
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend MS,

Marriage as a legal institution
Then cohabitation is illegal???
One can always enter into a contract with the cohabited partner about such ownership; is a contract as legal as a legal marriage??

Love & rgds
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
Friend MS,


Then cohabitation is illegal???
One can always enter into a contract with the cohabited partner about such ownership; is a contract as legal as a legal marriage??

Love & rgds

No. Cohabitation isn't illegal.

But drawing up a contract to define asset ownership and division in case of a dissolution isn't as broadly applied as legal marriage. It's why the argument for same sex marriage instead of civil unions or individual contracts.
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend MS,

But drawing up a contract to define asset ownership and division in case of a dissolution isn't as broadly applied as legal marriage
We are evolving being and so what is not broadly applied is not the same as what cannot be applied today or tomorrow.
Freedom is what religion points at and so has all the movements from hippie culture to nudists colonies and will find new expressions and legal contract may be another way of finding freedom from psychological bindings. It is found that many misuse marriage to claim high alimony by divorcing within a short period.

Love & rgds
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
Are common law marriages taken into consideration? In places where they are recognized a couple, even though they have filed no marriage license, are legally considered to have a partnership that requires a divorce. Wouldn't that affect divorce statistics?
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
Are common law marriages taken into consideration? In places where they are recognized a couple, even though they have filed no marriage license, are legally considered to have a partnership that requires a divorce. Wouldn't that affect divorce statistics?

They should if they aren't already.
 

blackout

Violet.
Are common law marriages taken into consideration? In places where they are recognized a couple, even though they have filed no marriage license, are legally considered to have a partnership that requires a divorce. Wouldn't that affect divorce statistics?

How on earth does the govt. know what kinds of relationships those living at the same address have with one another? How presumptuous!

I personally would be MAJORLY ****** off if the govt. just 'poof' pronounced me married/commonlaw. WTF is that?!


WE don't even get to sign on to our own legal agreements?
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
How on earth does the govt. know what kinds of relationships those living at the same address have with one another? How presumptuous!

I personally would be MAJORLY ****** off if the govt. just 'poof' pronounced me married/commonlaw. WTF is that?!


WE don't even get to sign on to our own legal agreements?

There are different thresholds for different purposes here. IIRC, after 1 year cohabitating with your partner (or less if you have a child together), you can't declare yourself "single" on your taxes. After a longer period (3 years, I think), you're deemed to be in a common-law marriage for family law purposes , though there are differences between a common-law marriage and a marriage done through a marriage licence.
 

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
What makes a mother have to cry all day
Since her daughter moved away?
And what makes papa interrupt her prayers
So he can put a curse on the boy he swears?

Common-law love
Common-law love
Napoleonic Code come to push or shove
And baby's shacking up in common-law love

What makes a family cringe and groan
Whenever they hear that pesky phone?
And what turns a neighbor to a so-called friend?
And what turns a whisper to a raging wind?

Common-law love
Common-law love
Napoleonic Code come to push or shove
And baby's shacking up in common-law love

Spicy as a kitchen in a gossiping home Hotter than a party line dial tone
What's all the rumble and the tumble about
The older generation hollers and shouts:

Common-law love
Common-law love
Napoleonic Code come to push or shove
And baby's shacking up in common-law love

Common-law love
Common-law love
Spread across the parish like a fever does
Young people falling into common law love

Common Law Love
~ Sonny Landreth
 

illykitty

RF's pet cat
Friend ToD,


Just another *thought*: Why marry when one can cohabit.
The term marriage bring its duality *divorce* by default.
If true love is there love itself is the commitment for life and beyond!

Love & rgds

Well in our case, marriage was the easiest way for me to remain in the UK. We were ready to commit but I've never considered marriage necessary for commitment. I would have been equally as happy to just co-habit. But it was simpler this way and we can stay together.

I'll soon be able to remain in the UK forever... Getting indefinite leave to remain visa because we are married. Well that is if I pass my test first, which is in less than 2 weeks.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
How on earth does the govt. know what kinds of relationships those living at the same address have with one another? How presumptuous!

I personally would be MAJORLY ****** off if the govt. just 'poof' pronounced me married/commonlaw. WTF is that?!


WE don't even get to sign on to our own legal agreements?

What constitutes as a common law marriage has requirements. Those requirements usually are things like: length of time cohabitating, whether there are children involved, joint accounts/bills/major purchases, if the couple holds each other as spouses, and more. It's not like the big bad government goes around declaring roommates as married willy-nilly.
 

nnmartin

Well-Known Member
surely it would just make more sense to do away with the outdated, moralistic sham of marriage entirely.

what is the point of it anymore?
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Apart from criticisms of marriage itself, I wouldn't want to marry someone that I didn't already live with for a while. I can't imagine doing so, and it doesn't seem wise to me.

surely it would just make more sense to do away with the outdated, moralistic sham of marriage entirely.

what is the point of it anymore?
Marriage doesn't make sense to me, personally.
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend Sweet Marie,

Thank you for your honest response.
True those who need to adjust could do well to live together before marriage but being male find that males whose loves lie below their belt change color depending on the gravity of the situation and get all the dirty work done by the females. *Male ego* . Personally am asexual and single and so is not affected either way but just the general feeling.

Love & rgds
 

blackout

Violet.
There are different thresholds for different purposes here. IIRC, after 1 year cohabitating with your partner (or less if you have a child together), you can't declare yourself "single" on your taxes. After a longer period (3 years, I think), you're deemed to be in a common-law marriage for family law purposes , though there are differences between a common-law marriage and a marriage done through a marriage licence.

I'm sorry.... cohabitating being? (exactly)
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
surely it would just make more sense to do away with the outdated, moralistic sham of marriage entirely.

what is the point of it anymore?


I don't think the legal institution of marriage is for everyone, but why do away with it for those who want it?
 
I disagree with cohabitation before marriage because it's against moral values, against the sanctity of marriage, and a disrespect in the sight of God since God is the one who established marriage.
 
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