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Comparitive Politics of RF Members.

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
But thats not the right graph. Compared to european countries the USA is far more right wing than anything in europe.
If by "right", you mean economically, some have more freedom (per the Heritage Foundation & the
Wall St Journal) than the US, eg, Switzerland, Ireland. And Denmark is set to move ahead of us too.
But if you mean politically "right", many have onerous social (in my view) restrictions compared to us,
eg, less freedom of speech. I've worked with German, Israeli & Russian ex-pats who prefer it here for
that reason.

Lousy language differences....must be careful when talking to those Eurocans
 

jasonwill2

Well-Known Member
But thats not the right graph. Compared to european countries the USA is far more right wing than anything in europe. Some european countries are more authocratic(Belarus, Ukraine or Russia) but generally the US is more than on another continent than europe.

There was a nice picture illustrating that... be right back.

What do you mean it's the wrong graph? There were two relevant ones in the post I linked.

Just face it: the political compass is right, your wrong. Europe isn't really that much more liberal than America because of globalization.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Just face it: the political compass is right, your wrong.

Oh my, prince charming.



Found the graph i was looking for. Its the Inglehart–Welzel Cultural Map.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...s_Map.svg/1000px-Inglehart_Values_Map.svg.png



I've worked with German, Israeli & Russian ex-pats who prefer it here for that reason.

Well most ex-pats live in a foreign country because they like it there.

Like for example all the american ex-pats in europe. ;)
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
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Well aren't we just a bunch of mostly liberal smelly hippies.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
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Well aren't we just a bunch of mostly liberal smelly hippies.
That's why I'm here....invited as part of an RF affirmative action program.
(They waived the entrance exam & fee for me.)

Hey! You're a social conservative compared to me!
 

otokage007

Well-Known Member
Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31


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So I'm near Dalai Lama... Oh... Ok. lol
 

Shermana

Heretic
Wow!
I had no idea that you're a fascist.
We extremists must stick together.

Haven't I made it clear by now? I really don't know what I'd call myself, I THOUGHT I was a Libertarian Socialist but like I said, my experiences with the Free Market have turned me against this "Free" part. That and I believe the only way to save America from debt-struction is to "eat the rich". Or in this case, force the Rich to throw their money into domestic production. But yes, we extremists must find our mutual common ground against the fence-sitters. I'm pretty sure under Shermanastan's system, you'd make twice as much as you're making now at least.

If you heard the story about how Jelly Belly strong armed my Uncle (the inventor) into selling the Trade mark at a dirt cheap price, you'd probably hate the system a little more too.

However, my blueprints for the perfect Israeli government are pretty much Fascist by definition. Minus the hostility to Jews.
 
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otokage007

Well-Known Member
I don't think Europe is particularly less advanced in any way than USA. As some have said, even in economical freedom there's some european countries that are above USA like Switzerland.

In the field of social goods, Spain has a better social security than USA, at least in free medical services.

In some other things Europe is also more progressist than USA. For example, gay marriages are legal in some European countries including Spain. Although I'm not sure if there's some states of the US in which it is also legal.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Haven't I made it clear by now? I really don't know what I'd call myself, I THOUGHT I was a Libertarian Socialist but like I said, my experiences with the Free Market have turned me against this "Free" part. That and I believe the only way to save America from debt-struction is to "eat the rich". Or in this case, force the Rich to throw their money into domestic production. But yes, we extremists must find our mutual common ground against the fence-sitters. I'm pretty sure under Shermanastan's system, you'd make twice as much as you're making now at least.
If you heard the story about how Jelly Belly strong armed my Uncle (the inventor) into selling the Trade mark at a dirt cheap price, you'd probably hate the system a little more too.
However, my blueprints for the perfect Israeli government are pretty much Fascist by definition. Minus the hostility to Jews.
As long as you're hostile to someone, we're good.
Perhaps our 2 countries can have a war of words, eh?
It's a good excuse to get together for peace summits, where we may eat, drink, party, & gossip about other countries.
 

jasonwill2

Well-Known Member
Although I'm not sure if there's some states of the US in which it is also legal.

It's a state issue because of an insidious law passed by congress. Six states allow it, and our current President Barrack Obama officially supports gay marriage.

Same-sex couples are permitted to marry in six states: Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, and Vermont, as well as in Washington, D.C., and two Native American tribal jurisdictions (Coquille, Suquamish). Maryland and Rhode Island recognize same-sex marriages from other jurisdictions but do not perform them.[1][2] California, which previously granted same-sex marriage, now only recognizes those entered into before November 5, 2008.[3] Laws that would legalize same-sex marriage in Washington[4] and Maryland[5] were passed in 2012, but each will be subject to a referendum during the November 2012 elections,[6] while Maine will also vote on an initiative to establish same-sex marriage.


Same-sex marriage has been established through court rulings and legislative action, but not via popular vote.[7][8] Nine states prohibit same-sex marriage in statute and thirty prohibit it in their constitution.[9] The movement to obtain marriage rights and benefits for same-sex couples in the United States began in the 1970s,[10] but became more prominent in U.S. politics in 1993 when the Hawaii Supreme Court declared the state's prohibition to be unconstitutional in Baehr v. Lewin.[11]


Throughout the 2000s decade, public support for legalizing same-sex marriage grew considerably,[12] and various national polls now show that a majority of Americans support same-sex marriage.[13] On May 9, 2012, Barack Obama became the first sitting U.S. president to publicly declare support for the legalization of same-sex marriage.[14][15]
Same-sex marriage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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jasonwill2

Well-Known Member
You might want to check that one.

I did...

. In 1996, the U.S. Congress approved the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), which prevents the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriages and allows each U.S. state to refuse to recognize same-sex marriages performed in another state.

Same-sex marriage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

edit: >.< I meant to say congress, my bad. I was looking at something the Supreme court did before posting elsewhere and had a case of word salad lol. Wrong branch of government >.>
 

Tarheeler

Argumentative Curmudgeon
Premium Member
edit: >.< I meant to say congress, my bad. I was looking at something the Supreme court did before posting elsewhere and had a case of word salad lol. Wrong branch of government >.>

Exactly. :D
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
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Good Lord, I'm Ghandi.
Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31
At least we've heard of him.
The quiz told me I'm some guy named "Old Scratch".
Perhaps he's some famous libertarian.
 
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