Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Oh I heard tons about them, from the left.
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Congratulations to President elect Trump and VP Elect Vance.
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Do you agree with the Italian that support
from the Cheney's was political suicide
for Harris?
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I don't think it helped anything.
Far from the impact claimed by the other poster.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Oh well, I can't help all that.
Mild weather, and lifetime trailer licenses.Ah, btw, the people of Michigan are the greatest people ever.
Long live MI.
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Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
Not to intrude here, but support from a Cheney (hey, let's dig up Rumsfeld for an endorsement!) is, let's say, not inspiring.
End the empire.
Uninspiring makes sense.
The poster's claim that doomed Harris doesn't.
Among other things.
I presume you didn't watch Gabbard's video...so I will post what she said in that video. Quote.
You assume correctly.
Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
Nice quote. I would though, bet that we can all agree that uncritical support for the police represents a potentially great jeopardy to our basic freedoms. Many in blue are criminals.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Instead of blaming "America," perhaps you should look at your party. I can't recall the last time an incumbent president was defeated after their first term and returned in the next election to defeat the same players that defeated him in the previous election to serve a second term. I think that says something about the current state of your political party.
The same was said about Republicans in 2020 and 2022. They doubled down on their messaging and did very well this time around.
I do think Democrats should go full on progressive and stop playing the centrist game.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I don't know how old you are, but I can tell you the reality is particularly present in Pennsylvania with the steel industry and what had happened when they ran away overseas , and what the resulting devastation has brought to countless homes and families.
You assume those who voted for Trump did so with reason and data. They didn't. The only rational option was the vice president.
And in what way is Trump qualified to be president? He has a history of being inept and self-serving. He is suffering from mental degredation. And he is a criminal. I've not read any Trump supporter offer an argument for why he was the better option. He has no plans to make the cost of living lower, have you not noticed that?
The voters are to blame when they demonstrate poor judgment in selecting Trump. Who else is there to blame, their parents? Society? Voters are responsible for their decisions. And responsible for what they allow to influence their decisions, like disinformation.
Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
Approaching the age of dirt.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
These have been explained to you many times over the last couple months. You refuse to acknowledge that.
Honestly, last night was like Christmas Eve to me. I was up until 5 am, just enjoying myself. I'm feeling more optimistic about the future. My coworkers and I are looking forward to hopefully having more money in our checks.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
On 9/23 Harris said she supported getting rid of the filibuster to pass abortion legislation. So why shouldn't the republicans do this to restrict abortion nationwide? (They won't because Trump said he would not) But what is the argument against this?
There were attempts to explain, but they lacked any sound reasoning. There still hasn't been any Trump supporter offering a defense to what makes Trump a good option. I think it's safe to expect more inept leadership this time. The difference is he will hire people loyal to his wishes and the two terrible agendas. I doubt Trump wll be able to maintain a high approval rating. Most voters cited the economy as their primary concern, and what does Trump offer to help the average citizen? Nothing. Is tariff plan will be a disaster long term. Even Musk admits citizens will face hardships.
I suspect most voters were so terribly informed that they have little idea who Trump is and what his ineptitude will cause.