Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
I have no interest in defending Trump, but yeah, he said 'only on day one.'
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Congratulations to President elect Trump and VP Elect Vance.
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I have no interest in defending Trump, but yeah, he said 'only on day one.'
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Neither did I, but I accept the will of the people.
We Never Know
No Slack
What does that have to do with anything we(you and I) are discussing?
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Same here in Ohio. The messaging was all about abortion here. The truth is that most people don't care about that issue that much, especially not before bread and butter economic issues, but they cling to it regardless.
Nimos
Well-Known Member
At least that is the message they will aim for. I don't think they care who voted for who in that regard, so that is probably true.
But I don't think Trump is about the little person, he is a businessman and I think he cares about "important" people and how it ultimately can benefit himself whether that is simply boosting his own ego or playing things to his benefit.
I personally don't think the average American person will look back at the upcoming years as being the golden age as he calls it, you have to remember that most of the experienced people he had last time have been fired or left, so it will be interesting to see what group he can assemble to run things and whether they are competent or simply doing whatever crazy things he want to. He has almost complete power to do what he wants and I don't think he is a person that is shy of making use of it.
Will be interesting to see if he is going after all the people that he considers personal enemies because he basically has the power to do that now, which will obviously harm the US democracy, but wouldn't be surprised if he did it.
Has life really been that bad for you these last 4 years?
They've been better for me than when Trump reigned.
Better economy for one.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I am not the average, blue-collar working person who is simply trying to pay their bills, because I have more money than I will ever need or use, but I really feel for people who are struggling to make ends meet through no fault of their own. It's just not fair that people should have to struggle like that and something needs to be done about it.
I expect them to back off on promises, eg,
the mass deportations. The cost in money,
manpower, facilities, & economic loss will
temper their ambitions.
Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
I totally agree. Well, I am a bit of freak in that I am a pro-life Christian - who is also a socialist. But yeah, the D's obsession with abortion turned off many people. That is why I had to hold my nose when I pulled the lever (ok, touched a screen lol) for Harris. And keep in mind that the issue is, as intended by the R's, back to the states. Abortion rights is now enshrined in many states (like NY), so there is no 'ban on abortion.' If you want to kill your unborn child, buy a bus ticket to the state next to yours.
Ugh
Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
I too am not stuggling at all. But many of my neighbors are, and the Ds did not talk to them.
Have you ever heard of a dictator who gave up power after one day? If Trump believes he is justified in being a dictator "only on day one" how do you know he won't feel justified in being a dictator on any other given day. When the Congress is not passing the bills he wants, when the States are not going along with his plans, when the media reports stories he does not like. Are you so sure he won't just decide to be a dictator "just for another day", and "another day" and "another day"?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Are you saying that convicted felons shouldn't have a second chance?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I don't think that is the reason she lost. If Biden had run he would also have lost.
Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
Are you an American? I ask only because you seem to think that there are no safeguards against such wannabe fascists.
PureX
Veteran Member
Until the corrupt Supreme Court rules that the state laws protecting abortion are illegal.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Yes it will, so why play God, as if you can know the future? Nobody knows yet.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I do not like him as a person either, but I care about the American people who are struggling to make ends meet, even though I am not struggling at all.Congratulations, hopefully, it will turn out good for you, even though I don't like him
Let's not play God, let's wait and see what happens.
Nimos
Well-Known Member
I think one of the big issues is rising prices, rent, goods etc. after COVID. And as expected you blame the sitting government. But a lot of this is not solely their fault, Trump could have done something about it as well, yet didn't. Yet he takes the upper hand in this as the "saviour/solution", but the problem is that US is controlled by corporations and no one will go after them regardless of who is sitting on the throne.
You can see a sharp increase in prices as a result of Covid (or at least using that as an excuse), but the prices have never really returned. So for instance eggs have risen in price by 79% from 2020 to 2024, but that doesn't make sense, there is no Covid anymore and it has happened to a lot of US products and services, which is why a lot of people now struggle, but neither Trump or Biden apparently have done anything against these companies for doing so. And obviously, if you are rich this is no issue, but if you are poor and everything increases in cost you will feel it.
So to me, the issue that the Americans are facing seems to be much more severe than just who is sitting in office, their system is not very good at handling these things because of the extreme inequality in the US.
Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
That is a nonsensical statement. Though if it somehow turned out to be true, great!