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Consciousness, Mind, and Brain

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Except for the subconscious, as well as autonomic functions.

Subconscious is unintentional separation from one's mind for a given time,the person will be conscious once reminded.

I can't understand that some is dealing with the brain as if the person himself.

Humans have the same brain structure,but you,ll find a pleasant person and troubling ones.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Of course they aren't.

The subconscious is still conscious but his mind let off for a while.

No, the subconscious is the part of cognitive functioning which takes place below the level of consciousness and occurs without awareness.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
No, the subconscious is the part of cognitive functioning which takes place below the level of consciousness and occurs without awareness.

But once the person gets aware then he''ll be back to normal in a millisecond.

Let me give you one example,an subconscious person wanted to cross the road and his mind was wandering somewhere,another person near to him noticed that and he shouted hey,wait,don't cross the road,so the subconscious person will immediately stop and will be even more conscious than ever before. :D
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
But once the person gets aware then he''ll be back to normal in a millisecond.

Let me give you one example,an subconscious person wanted to cross the road and his mind was wandering somewhere,another person near to him noticed that and he shouted hey,wait,don't cross the road,so the subconscious person will immediately stop and will be even more conscious than ever before. :D

I don't think you fully understand what is meant by subconscious.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Your statements indicate otherwise.

Here is an example of a subconscious action,no need for a statement.image can explain it better.

nailbiting7b89.jpg
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Yes. If you think that nailbiting encapsulates all aspects of the subconscious, then I am certain you do not fully understand what subconscious means.

I had gave you many examples and still you didn't understand it.

the subconscious is the part of consciousness that is not currently in focal awareness
Reference: Subconscious - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Actually it is very obvious that mind and consciousness are related but they are 2 different things.
 
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TurkeyOnRye

Well-Known Member
Are these three different or same? Kindly explain your reasons, with definition of the terms, whenever necessary.

I think they could be seen as the same or different, depending on context and definition. Definitions vary depending on field of study/author/researcher etc. Even within the same field, definitions are debated, so I wouldn't get too hung up on terminology.

I would say in a general sense, the mind is the net activity or phenomena that occurs within the volume of consciousness and the brain is the major conductor for such activity. I see the three as being highly interdependent. Although I believe the brain is absolutely necessary to direct the complexity of reality as we experience it, I highly question the necessity of a brain for the existence of awareness in and of itself.
 
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The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
Are these three different or same? Kindly explain your reasons, with definition of the terms, whenever necessary.

Consciousness and mind are created by brain (or, from a materialist standpoint, it literally is the sum of all brain activity. Same with mind.

Brain is the physical aspect.

Consciousness is the collective aspect.

Mind is more general for the collective aspect.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I view them all as separate things interacting with each other.

Consciousness is the eternal aware aspect of us.

Mind is the result of the interaction between the brain and consciousness.

Brain is the interface between the physical and non-physical aspects of ourselves. It's an information receiver and decoder, as well as taking care of automatic functions of the body so we can live.

That's my view on it, anyway.
 

atanu

Member
Premium Member
Not to mention those studies from neuroscience that demonstrate decisions to act are made by the brain prior to conscious recognition of the decisions. In other words, the brain decides to reach for the apple before it becomes consciously aware of having decided to reach for the apple.

Hello brother

You okayed sandandfoam's view and I thought you were on my side. Now Kilgore finds you on his side. :D
 
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