Contradictions in the Bible

[Workman]

This be tongues..of what your “(i) cant see”.

22: is saying: what be new came from THE OLD.

42: is saying: what be old was to become THE NEW.

Now which of might in read, (I) doesn’t know which not so be fitting to your (I):lied...understanding.

GOD BLESS!..

 

[exchemist]

Yes..it does make sense of your
“(i) want to [see]” ain’t it?
After all when you use the word (I),
You are not speaking for what you want to see...your speaking for what your eyes(I) needs to see...

You have become noisey and Very gullible..from your ‘(I) always think’..

Hohoho. Why not try your luck at sciforums.

 

[Workman]

Hohoho. Why not try your luck at sciforums.

Wow!..your jokes are getting better.. than you are!..verily nice I say.. “one(i) can see”!..but you.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I haven't denied what the article on Wiki states. I didn't see anywhere in the article that implied the hat was "magic." You obviously find it very entertaining to mock other people's beliefs, but you can't even get your facts straight. The hat was used solely to keep out the light. Now if you want to ridicule the seer stones, have at it.

Now that does not seem to make any sense at all. I love the post his rationalization. It is okay to make fun of the stones he used for translation but not the hat.

You do realize that that story has scam written all over it I hope.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

God cannot lie. He does send a lie to those who reject the Truth.

Most of the people I know have higher standards than this god. Honorable people don't lie just because their truths are rejected.

Show me where I called Him a liar.

Look at the quote above. You called your god a liar in the second sentence. You know what a liar is, don't you? It's anybody who knowingly deceives. If I send you a lie, you can call me a liar, and I reserve that right even when considering alleged gods.

Atheists don't want the Truth. Thus they will believe the lie. They already believe a lie in rejecting the Truth.

You have no truth. You're a faith-based thinker, and faith is not a path to truth. Do you consider your god actual? Then you do so by faith, since you not only have no evidence that the Christian god exists, but must ignore compelling evidence to the contrary that it cannot exist given that is said to have mutually exclusive properties at the same time - a logical impossibility. You have been lied to by the Bible's writers. Atheists see through the lies.

Even without this compelling evidence against the Christian god's existence, if faith is a path to truth, one can simply reject the claim by faith and have as good an argument and as much truth as you have.

Just so you know, when you make blanket, bigoted statements demeaning the intelligence and integrity of all atheists - a class of mostly law-abiding, hard-working people trying to raise their families and make their communities better - you earn the contempt of those people, and invite a similar review of your religion and the effect it would have on anybody that would listen to and assimilate its hatreds. Christianity brings me nothing of value to me, but it does generate millions of bigots and poor thinkers demeaning people like me for having the sense and strength to avoid the pitfall of hating by faith.

 

[Workman]

Now KNOW this!

From NOW and THAN..

For WHICH you gave ME...IT will NOW be returned unto YOU..

FROM I Am “Patient”...

And by now WHICH you gave..was not by yours for taking..
Do not get fooled by the “Devil”.

FOR I Am...To Be “Patience”!

 

[exchemist]

Now KNOW this!

From NOW and THAN..

For WHICH you gave ME...IT will NOW be returned unto YOU..

FOR I Am “Patience”...

And now WHICH you gave..was not by yours to take..
Do get fooled by the “Devil”.

FOR I Am...more “Patience”!

Yeah yeah. Don't you mean "I am a patient"?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I used to think as you do about it, as it seemed there was just too much confusion with so many denominations and sects. I no longer see it like that, though. Now I believe this simply shows that various groups of Christians who are in agreement on the essentials, yet still have many differences are made up of individual, unique people who are all at different places in their understanding of God and His word, as well as their sanctification or maturity in their relationship with God. The Bible addresses this and from my view it is a tremendous testimony of the greatest and patience of God as He allows and waits for people to grow.

It also illustrates that there are not always easy answers in the scripture, despite claims by many to the contrary and that the scripture is highly subject to numerous interpretations. If you are saying the quality of these interpretations varies, I would agree.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

It is not really a contradiction as such.
I was concentrating on an approximation.

You know nobody can measure to
a trillionth of a millimeter.

The numbers given in the bible are approximate. You
can see that?

You are saying that. Not me.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

What is the difference between "sending" and "uttering" when it comes to something like a lie, which is a statement, not an object?

I have explained it many times already. The lie exists already. God speaks and brings the Truth to man. When man rejects that Truth, He then sends the lie.

The difference is the lie is not of God. But when you reject the Truth of God, that God gives, then He gives you the lie. It is what you want.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Your view that God lies is not based on scripture. And I will repeat the truth as long as necessary.

Good-Ole-Common-Sense

I never said God lies. And I gave you Scripture to support my statements about God and you have nothing to offer. What do you say concerning (Job 1:6-12)?

My view is based upon Scripture. And you have nothing to say.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

Yes we have, and your explanation was that there were "Two different Ahaziah's." (post 44)

In post # 78 I showed that this was certainly not the case.

To which you merely asserted that "I just showed you, both were different. What is the problem?" (post 137) without having done any such thing. You merely made an empty claim.




Then in post 524 you made a rather odd remark, "Apparent contradictions do exist because the revelation is from God. Had the Bible been written to the perfect logic and understanding of man, it wouldn't have been from God. It would have been from man."

To which I replied, "Only a perfect god would write an imperfect book. Gee, that makes sense doesn't it."

To which you replied in post 549, "It is not an imperfect Book." Just as if the contradiction I pointed out and which you failed to contradict, never existed.

To which I pointed out that

2 Kings 8:25-27
25 In the twelfth year of Joram the son of Ahab king of Israel did Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah begin to reign.
26 Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel.

2 Chronicles 22
22 And the inhabitants of Jerusalem made Ahaziah his youngest son king in his stead: for the band of men that came with the Arabians to the camp had slain all the eldest. So Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah reigned. 2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother’s name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri.

Two and twenty (22) is not the same as Forty and two (42). To contend it is violates the law of contradiction. And violating the law of law of contradiction is a logical error.​

And now your only retort is, "I believe we already discussed this contradiction." As if you've actually showed that 2 Kings 8:25-27 and 2 Chronicles 22 don't contradict each other, AND that there were "two different Ahaziah's."

Sorry, Good-Ole-Rebel, but pretending you've met the burden of proving your claim just doesn't work. You are wrong in your assertion that there were "Two different Ahaziah's, " and that the Bible "is not an imperfect Book." and I and everyone else here knows it. You've been busted and you don't even have the cajones to admit it, which comes as no surprise.

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Post #(781) where?

No, I showed you that there were two Ahaziah's and two Athaliah's. If you want to believe it is a contradiction and it makes you feel good about denying the Bible as the Word of God, go ahead. There are apparent contradictions I have no answer for. So, feel free to use that to deny the Bible is from God.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Workman]

Yeah yeah. Don't you mean "I am a patient"?

Yess! and yes!..you are completely..
being RIGHT!..

(I) is the patient!

Thank [YOU] of provide volunteering...your learning quite fast in it..Keep up it’s good work...of YOU!..its nearly there!

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I never said God lies. And I gave you Scripture to support my statements about God and you have nothing to offer.

I offered half a dozen verses of the Bible that state that you are wrong and God does not lie. Scripture son. It's right there in the scripture.

What do you say concerning (Job 1:6-12)?
My view is based upon Scripture. And you have nothing to say.

You mean your distraction from the fact that you cannot justify your position that God lies based on the verses I posted? No. I see no reason to react to your diversions.

Good-Ole-Rebel

Good-Ole-Diversionary Tactics

 

[Subduction Zone]

I have explained it many times already. The lie exists already. God speaks and brings the Truth to man. When man rejects that Truth, He then sends the lie.

The difference is the lie is not of God. But when you reject the Truth of God, that God gives, then He gives you the lie. It is what you want.

Good-Ole-Rebel

Got it. So if people do not believe what he wants them to believe he lies to them.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Post #(781) where?

No, I showed you that there were two Ahaziah's and two Athaliah's. If you want to believe it is a contradiction and it makes you feel good about denying the Bible as the Word of God, go ahead. There are apparent contradictions I have no answer for. So, feel free to use that to deny the Bible is from God.

Good-Ole-Rebel

Are these different Ahaziah and Athaliah part of the mirror universe of Star Trek? Where did you do this wondrous feat?

Recognition of contradictions is not denying the Bible as the source of Christian theology, but it does represent the fact that it was written by and compiled by people who are flawed.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Post #(781) where?

No, I showed you that there were two Ahaziah's and two Athaliah's. If you want to believe it is a contradiction and it makes you feel good about denying the Bible as the Word of God, go ahead. There are apparent contradictions I have no answer for. So, feel free to use that to deny the Bible is from God.

Good-Ole-Rebel

You did? Or did you just make a weak excuse? I am betting that it was the latter. You would need some strong evidence for that. Did you provide any or did you just wave your hands?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Got it. So if people do not believe what he wants them to believe he lies to them.

That is what he is saying. Either that or he is claiming there is a being greater than God and is lying to God and God is just passing those lies on without vetting them. It is hard to discern the strange machinations and mental acrobatics of the creationist/literalist/fundamentalist.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

You did? Or did you just make a weak excuse? I am betting that it was the latter. You would need some strong evidence for that. Did you provide any or did you just wave your hands?

Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! I know. Pick me. I know the answer.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I am interested in how he defends the contradictions in the Bible by creating his own set of contradictions. God is the truth and a liar at the same time. The same person is two different people. He uses scripture to refute others, but that same scripture refutes him.

What other amazing tricks will we see?

He won't defend himself -- he will simply repeat his assertions ad infinitum.