Autodidact
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So if God commands you to do something that you would otherwise consider evil, it's not evil, but good? Say, something like infanticide, for example?
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contradictions in the bible???
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Whatever God commands is good 
Autodidact
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So if God commands you to do something that would otherwise be evil, it then becomes good, just because God commanded it? Say for example, since I am both atheist and a lesbian, that God commanded you to murder my children. Would that be good then?
And before you say the He wouldn't (although He frequently did things just like that, according to your book about Him) please review the meaning of the word "hypothetical." Thank you.
And before you say the He wouldn't (although He frequently did things just like that, according to your book about Him) please review the meaning of the word "hypothetical." Thank you.
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
That's the methodology that many used to justify their blood lust. God would NEVER ask us to do something evil. God is love.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
You would disagree with Mister Emu then?
So if God commands you to do something that would otherwise be evil, such as murdering a baby, it's still evil then?
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
It's a trick question: God would never ask us to murder a baby. HOWEVER, jerks who murder babies will often blame God and say that he told them to do it! I do believe that most of the wars in the OT that were attributed to God were merely justifications for their own blood thirstiness. God is love.
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
How many times do I have to repeat myself? Man wrote the Bible: not God. Why would you think he wrote it without trying to make himself look as good as possible? Do you think that pride is a recent invention? God is love. You can know something is of God if it is of love.
McBell
Unbound
Interesting pick and choose method
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
You have a problem with this?
I would consider good anything that God commanded...
McBell
Unbound
It matters not to me one way or another.
I just find it an interesting way to pick and choose..
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
Pick and choose what?
McBell
Unbound
the Bible.
Scuba Pete
Le plongeur avec attitude...
Well, I pick the Bible then. It's good stuff.
It's good stuff.
Autodidact
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1 Samuel 15:3
This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy [a] everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'
Numbers 21:35
The LORD said to Moses, "Do not be afraid of him, for I have handed him over to you, with his whole army and his land. Do to him what you did to Sihon king of the Amorites, who reigned in Heshbon." 35 So they struck him down, together with his sons and his whole army, leaving them no survivors. And they took possession of his land.
Numbers 21:17:
Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Exodus 12:29
At midnight the LORD struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well.
It's so tedious. (1) The God of the Bible certainly does this on a regular basis. (2) So these OT prophets, such as Moses, are just jerks who wanted to murder babies? The text is just plain wrong, and we can't rely on it? What say you, Mr. Emu, can we believe the Bible? (3) It's a hypothetical. Are you familiar with the concept?
Autodidact
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So basically we can throw out the Bible out as a source of information? It's unreliable? How do you know there ever was such a guy as Jesus?
Autodidact
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Of course; it's completely inconsistent.
crystalonyx
Well-Known Member
Quite a dangerous belief, look at 9/11.
Autodidact
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That would be a yes, then, if God commands you to murder my children, doing so would be good?
Some follow up questions:
So when God commanded the 9/11 hijackers to murder 3000 innocent New Yorkers, that was good?
So when you say "good" in the context of your God, you include "things that we would otherwise call evil." That is, in your theology, evil has now become good? There is no absolute or objective good, rather anything that God commands is good, no matter how evil?
From the point of view of a non-Christian, Christians are people who think that things that the rest of find evil, such as genocide, are good, as long as God commands them? So basically I should give any Christian a wide berth, stay away from them, really, as they are likely to suddenly murder my children and call it good? Should the rest of us now try to wipe out Christianity, just to protect ourselves from these dangerous people?