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Coping with grief

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I don't know where you are getting that from. The verse talks specifically about those walking in the light and does not mention resurrection. I suppose you could be taking about I Cor 15:51 but the we is Paul who is a believer and those he is writing to who are also believers.
I believe there are two possibilities. 1. Walking with God is the same as walking in the light. 2. People are re-incarnated giving them an opportunity to believe in Jesus.
Of course I believe the Rapture is an open invitation but Jesus said: Mat 22:11................

1 John 1:7 (B part) says the blood of Jesus.... cleanses us from all sin.
So, to me that means Jesus died for all, for everyone.
However, that does Not mean everyone will listen to Jesus.
That is why Jesus' ransom covers "MANY" and Not everyone as per Matthew 20:28.
After all, as Psalms 92:7 says the wicked will be ' destroyed forever '.
If we do Not want to ' perish ' ( be destroyed ) then we should ' repent ' as per 2 Peter 3:9.

I find there is a BIG difference between rapture and coming through the great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.
As Noah and family were Not air born, the saved great crowd of people of Revelation 7:9-10 will remain here.
I find Proverbs 2:21-22 lets us know who 'remains' here .
Who goes are the ones executed by the words from Jesus' mouth as per Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16.
Kind of like if you had a beautiful occupied house that became infested with rats you would Not air lift the house or occupants but call the exterminator to exterminate the rats.

As far as the already dead, Acts of the Apostles 24:15 says (future tense) that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection.... In other words, Jesus did Not perform an re-incarnations but only resurrections.
So, Jesus was showing us a resurrection picture preview, or a coming attraction of what he will be doing on a grand-global scale during his coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Nifty scam. However, it does help some people, so is not that bad.
I watched both my parents die, one from a stroke, the other from heart failure. I found that the religious people around me were busy virtue signalling and showed little compassion for my parents' suffering. I was the one who held my mother, not the bible thumping relative who was there.
I will be going presently and am glad to be free of religious terrors.

So, sorry to read about loosing your parents as you did. Death will be swallowed up forever - Isaiah 25:8.
To me Revelation 21:4-5 is Not a nifty scam, but I've found that when people learn about biblical hell that comforts.
Comforts because 'biblical hell' is just the stone-cold temporary grave for the sleeping dead.
Sleeping dead because Jesus taught 'sleep in death' at John 11:11-4, as do Psalms 115:17; Psalms 146:4.
King Solomon, known for having wisdom, wrote at Ecclesiastes 9:5 that the dead know nothing.
So, there is No terror in death, nothing but peaceful sleep. Sleep unitl Resurrection Day meaning Jesus' coming millennium-long day of governing over Earth in righteousness when as Acts of the Apostles 24:15 says there is going to be (future tense) a resurrection......

Even if the religious or so-called religious people around you showed little compassion that does Not make the Bible as wrong but makes their lack of applying Jesus' teachings as wrong.
Jesus can make things right for you and your parents because as Revelation 22:2 says there will be ' healing ' for earth's nations........ Mankind will see the return of the Genesis "Tree of Life" on Earth for healing earth's nations.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
In 10 years i have lost three family members, mother, sister and spouse. my mother had a degenerative, irreversible condition, my sister had cancer, and my spouse who had also health problems. The best way for me to deal with the grief was to understand that we are born to die, and it can happen anytime. Mortality is part of our human condition, so is getting old and getting sick, there's nothing we can do about it. I grieved and time healed everything, you learn to accept they are gone and they won't come back, you learn to live with their absence, after a while you remember the happy times. Grief also changes those who mourn, we become more aware of our own mortality....give it time.

So very sorry to read about your losses.
In Scripture I find mortal Adam was Not brought to life to die.
Mortal Adam was offered everlasting life on a beautiful paradisical Earth forever 'if' he did Not break God's Law.
Because we are all born ' after ' Adam sinned is why we die.
Since we can Not resurrect oneself or another is why we need someone who can resurrect us.
As per Scripture Jesus can and will resurrect the dead - Revelation 1:18.
The God-given 'resurrection hope'' is to understand we are born to 'live'. Live again - Acts of the Apostles 24:15.
That is why Jesus offers us ' everlasting life ' (Not everlasting death) - John 17:3
The Resurrection Hope is the hope of being re-united with loved ones again.
Mankind will see the return of the Genesis "Tree of Life" on Earth again according to Revelation 22:2 when there will be ' healing ' for earth's nations. Enemy death will be No more on Earth as per 1 Corinthians 15:26.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
I am speaking from the Bible's point of view because as Matthew 20:28 says Jesus' ransom saves "MANY", Not all.
I understand Psalms 92:7 to say the 'wicked will be destroyed forever', Not saved forever.
The executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the Earth of the wicked - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16.

Also, I find the Bible teaches resurrection, and Not some after life theory.
After life suggest that a person is more alive after death than before death.
Whereas the Bible teaches unconscious sleep in death - John 11:11-14; Psalms 115:17; Psalms 146:4; Ecclesiastes 9:5.
That is in harmony with Acts of the Apostles 24:15 that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection... ( future tense ).

None of which addresses one of my points regarding the annihilation of the wicked, that the Bible uses the same word to describe the eternal life of the righteous and the eternal death of the wicked, during which "their worm dies not".

Let me ask you, since numerous Bible-loving, Bible-adhering, Bible-interpreting sects see eternal Hell, how likely is it that only one group got their interpretation correct here?
 
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