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Could forgive your lover?

Forgive your lover if he/she betrayed you?

  • I am woman,Yes I already forgave my lover.

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Perditus

へびつかい座
We're actually not. We're technically at a half-way point, biologically, between monogamous and polygamous. Basically, we're at a point where someone people will just prefer one or the other, but the norm has been some sort of polygamy, and while strict or serial monogamy can work for some but it certainly isn't for everyone.
My belief is that if we were completely unsocialized we'd be acting like rabbits.
 

Flame

Beware
Married right out of High School (18), we stayed together for roughly a year then she became pregnant with our daughter. After her birth, my ex started going out more and not coming home until late in the night or early in the morning. My brother ended up sending me pictures of her going out and getting really cozy with a classmate of ours.

I was angry however after having a long conversation with my mother and two older sisters, I went with forgive as it seemed the easier path to go through. Now days I only see her once or twice a month when she comes to my side of the state to see our daughter.
 

MD

qualiaphile
Boom! This.

The cheater ruins the marriage and the family unit. And it's never a 'mistake.' Most cheaters are just upset that they get caught, and feign remorse.

Exactly. There are very few people who are good or evil, most are simply weak.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Why do you feel that forgiveness means that you need to stay in a bad marriage?

isn't forgiveness is just giving another chance to others?
forgiveness in your case is not complete , "I forgive you but you will not be my lover anymore!"

It's like I if I say : I forget but I still remember :D
 
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Kirran

Premium Member
I think this is a language issue - this is where subtle distinctions of meaning come in!
 

PeteC-UK

Active Member
Hi Folks..

MD;
As soon as you forgive someone who cheated on you, they will look at you with no respect. They will see you as weak and will lose any attraction they have left for you. They will most likely cheat on you again. Thus it is best to cut your losses and move on. Their punishment will be a lifetime reminder of this loss. Without this reminder, they will not learn and grow to become more mindful in future relationships.

On the contrary - LEGITIMATE love is NEVER weak like that...And the lack of respect - is ALWAYS for them SELF primarily as they simply would NOT act like that at all if they knew their truth - but if YOU remain true to the Self in spite of their "disrespect" then they have not actually affected you at all HAVE THEY..??.. That is not a "weakness" then but on the contrary - it is an inner strength that is truly unbeatable and sadly most will never allow them Self to uncover it within...When though, they see they have NOT affected you after all and that you STILL LOVE THEM FULLY - when they experience directly this inner strength you have found - then their own truth will be clearer for them to see - as said they WILL wish to have that which YOU have and have demonstrated clearly to them - it IS what we ALL seek either known or in ignorance,we seek this inner truth ALWAYS....

I say again - we ARE LOVE itself - know this about your self and help those around to uncover it within also - once the Self perspective changes then so too will the ACTIONS that follow and the infidelity will stop quite naturally...Bare with them - and GROW with them ;)

If though you "cut your losses" so to speak then you do BOTH of you(s) a grave dis service - and if you look and find your love is LEGITIMATE as I try to describe, then absolutely NOTHING EVER could compel you to "cut your losses" at all and if that love is legitimate then you WILL stand side by side NO MATTER WHAT LIFE THROWS AT YOU you will face it together as two Souls now united as ONE....

Punishment..???.....A purely MORTAL DESIRE and nothing more - not spiritual - not the Souls agenda or imperative - NEVER !! Infidelity is always a matter of this Self ignorance - there is never a need to punish for being ignorant - educate instead - SHOW them Who they are truly bu allowing them to see your own Self clearly- and that will require by necessity that You love them legitimately - and that will require first that You know and understand your own truth and eternal nature...FORGET any notions of "punishment" - there is talk of "respect" as if wrongs need to be righted - but to punish here for this perceived "crime" is actually to disrespect your own Soul who would NEVER wish you to harm another EVER if you can avoid it...Respect your own Self then - allow the Soul to guide always and never bow down to that mortal tyrant we each have inside...

This is one reason why marriage is crumbling. We're living longer and longer, in an extremely liberal society. The old rules don't apply anymore.

Yer maybe so - at the surface - but to the Soul - the old rules ALWAYS apply and always will of course for as said - LOVE itself IS our eternal nature - we ARE love - and the reason society is so confused in modern times is simply because most have forgotten Who they are and have adopted now instead , the persona that SOCIETY has led and TAUGHT them to become....
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
sometimes people are weak and make mistakes.
depending on the situation it might be better to forgive.

Society has changed over the years, at some points in time, being married and having a mistress was not at all unusual.
Kings often chose the wives of titled courtiers. It was usual for such arrangements to be permanent.

Today most societies have fairly large numbers of people of both sexes who play away, often or perhaps usually, with their partners knowledge.
In these situations forgiveness does not come into it, as it is an acceptance or agreement for the situation that exists.
Personally I find such arrangements abusive to one or more of the participants.
 

Ana.J

Active Member
Exactly. There are very few people who are good or evil, most are simply weak.

You use the word "weak" very often....Forgiveness is not weakness, as I see it. It is just the opposite. When you forgive, the other person feels that you are wise and they are important to you.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I wouldn't say they're not matching in that case. Forgiveness isn't forgetting, it's not holding any animosity or judgement.
I know it's not forgetting,it's about giving another chance.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
I know it's not forgetting,it's about giving another chance.

Not even that. OK, so when I work at the monastery, there's a guy who is helping me move manure but he's not working very hard. I forgive him, no animosity, no problem, but I don't get him to help me moving manure again cos it's not constructive.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Not even that. OK, so when I work at the monastery, there's a guy who is helping me move manure but he's not working very hard. I forgive him, no animosity, no problem, but I don't get him to help me moving manure again cos it's not constructive.
Its not same feeling exactly,got betrayed by your LOVER is really really hurt more , believe me.

I understand that you want to explain like, "let it go" BUT I will not continous with you.

For most one you love and you trust , and she/he caught cheating, that absolutly hurt emotionnal, and may shock psychologically.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Hello everyone

This question came to my mind yesterday to make thread when I saw a TV program about talk about infidelity in world,some Asian countries like Thailand, and Danemark, Germany, and UK had high rate , reach to less or more than 50%


My question is , would you forgive your lover if he/she cheat on you,he/she ask forgiveness ,OR get seperate with him/her ?

Did you forgave your lover before for cheat on you before ?

NOTE:
I meant by cheating "sexual one".
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I was cheated on by one girlfriend, but I didn't find out until we had broken up.

Overall, while sexual infidelity is serious, I'd say it isn't the worst sort of betrayal that can happen in a relationship, so focusing on it as some sort of "ultimate" probably isn't the best approach.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Its not same feeling exactly,got betrayed by your LOVER is really really hurt more , believe me.

I understand that you want to explain like, "let it go" BUT I will not continous with you.

For most one you love and you trust , and she/he caught cheating, that absolutly hurt emotionnal, and may shock psychologically.

Yeah I get that dude. been there. Just trying to illustrate the concept.
 
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