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Could Nothingness Be Another Dimension In And Of Itself?

Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
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MrMrdevincamus said:
Actually the Western religions such as Judaism and even Christianity are eastern religions. A major recurring theme in the bible is that this reality is an illusion, the afterlife is the true reality. Many Christians deny the bible, by relying on a preacher, usually well meaning guy, to interpret it for them. Not good! Anyway I do agree that Christianity does reject individualism. True Christianity is like true communism and its goal is to provide for all not just the self.

MrMr
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Christianity started in Asia but it was injected with a bunch of Greek philosophy, making it very Westernized. It actually started in the Roman Empire, after all.

Also, I'm a communist, but I'm also an individualist. The two aren't at odds, despite what many think.
 
Sees

Sees

Dragonslayer
q konn said:
Not even science agrees with you. Where to next? Perhaps a theory that black is white? heheh
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If scientific consensus agreed with the idea that things aren't things/real because they are not static or changless we'd have basically stayed at square zero. Every piece of technology around us wouldn't be there - heck songs, books, language...wouldn't exist if everybody got onboard. Let alone RF and all of the individual member accounts which were created supposedly by non-existent individuals.
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
q konn said:
Not at all. Rather a basic term to describe the illusion that he defines as the self.
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This illusion is a combination of values and imagery we accumulate during our lifetime, a result of our social indoctrination, and then freeze them into a concept we call and identify with as 'I'. This is the 3rd level of consciousness, that of Identification, or Waking Sleep, in which we only think ourselves to be awake, but are in fact living a script dictated by others.
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Sees said:
If scientific consensus agreed with the idea that things aren't things/real because they are not static or changless we'd have basically stayed at square zero. Every piece of technology around us wouldn't be there - heck songs, books, language...wouldn't exist if everybody got onboard. Let alone RF and all of the individual member accounts which were created supposedly by non-existent individuals.
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The technology that would have been created would be one in harmony with our environment and sanity. Our priorities would be to place the cart behind the horse.
 
Ben Dhyan

Ben Dhyan

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godnotgod said:
...and maya comes from The Absolute, yes?
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The absolute is one...everything conceived of is still one with the absolute, but the concept of maya implies the conceiver thinks its conceptions are real of themselves as separate entities...
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
Spiny Norman said:
Another thread hijacked by the preachers of the Chopra roadshow. Shame.o_O
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No, it's just that you can't admit that your limited view is the product of a stagnant backwater, in light of the information that you continue to knee jerk label as 'new age nonsense', and the like, without taking the time to really understand what is being communicated.
 
godnotgod

godnotgod

Thou art That
ben d said:
The absolute is one...everything conceived of is still one with the absolute, but the concept of maya implies the conceiver thinks its conceptions are real of themselves as separate entities...
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Uh huh, and how do you suppose this comes about?
 
Ben Dhyan

Ben Dhyan

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godnotgod said:
There is conditioned reality, then there is absolute reality. If the enlightened are transcendent of conditioned reality, the only other choice is absolute reality.
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Absolute reality is one...the unenlightened are as much a part of the oneness as the enlightened...
 
Sees

Sees

Dragonslayer
godnotgod said:
The technology that would have been created would be one in harmony with our environment and sanity. Our priorities would be to place the cart behind the horse.
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If there are no puzzle pieces, the puzzle doesn't get built.
 
LegionOnomaMoi

LegionOnomaMoi

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q konn said:
Not at all. Rather a basic term to describe the illusion that he defines as the self.
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Really? So this basic term is the nominative singular first person Latin pronoun that just happens to be that translated into English from Freud's "Ich" (in e.g., Massenpsychologie und Ich-Analyse)?
 
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Desert Snake

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Saint Frankenstein said:
At this point, you're just trolling.
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Lol, no. Your contradicting yourself, btw. You are claiming that that your religious specification (lhp) is about individuation, yet it employs a deity concept, has written books /those are essentially holy books/, etc/ Why are you saying that your beliefs are somehow different from others?
 
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