godnotgod
Thou art That
That's not what anthropomorhism is.
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Could Nothingness Be Another Dimension In And Of Itself?
- Thread starter Runewolf1973
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That's not what anthropomorhism is.
godnotgod
Thou art That
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
So you're going through an Advaita phase now? OK.
So do you think you are the Andromeda galaxy? I assume you recognise that you are not the Andromeda galaxy, just comprised of the same kind of forces and elements. And dare I say it, the same kind of interactions.
Your individual mental imaginings and religious theories don't change or affect any of that, they are just ideas in your mind. "Dark energies down the rabbit hole."
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Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
I think you're confusing dark energy with dark matter. Dark energy is more like an expansive or repulsive force.
http://www.space.com/6619-dark-energy.html
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Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
No I am not...regardless of evidence of universal expansion..gravity is an attractive force between bodies of mass....and dark energy comprises 65% mass of the universe..
"Again on a mass–energy equivalence basis, the density of dark energy (~ 7 × 10−30 g/cm3) is very low, much less than the density of ordinary matter or dark matter within galaxies. However, it comes to dominate the mass–energy of the universe because it is uniform across space."... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Yes, you are. Note the significance of the first phrase above that I have bolded, "Again on a mass–energy equivalence basis..."
And why do you think it's called dark energy?
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Light has mass...have you not heard of gravitational lensing in astronomical science..light is energy!!! Mass-energy means the mass of the energy...
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Light has mass...have you not heard of gravitational lensing in astronomical science..light is energy!!! Mass-energy means the mass of the energy...
I think you need to study this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass–energy_equivalence
In any case dark energy is envisaged as an expansive or repulsive force, and is distinct from dark matter and ordinary matter.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Who mentioned the mass of dark matter or ordinary matter... I spoke of dark energy mass...65% of the total....
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
You're still missing the point, which is equivalence.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
I did not miss it...did you miss my point on gravitational lensing wrt light?
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Interesting point. I guess if you think of consciousness as a type of energy, then that would also be drawn down by gravity, maybe sucked into a rabbit hole?
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Note that the jhanas are all meditative states, so don't take the descriptions too literally.
godnotgod
Thou art That
There is no such 'I' that thinks nor recognizes anything of the sort.
'Andromeda Galaxy' is just a notion in your head that your ego thinks is 'out there', and itself as 'over here', while still attached to form.
'form is emptiness;
emptiness is form'
...so where is the distinction between what you see as 'this' and 'that'; between 'observer' and 'observed'?
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mystic64
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Anything with mass is subject to gravitational force....yes...
Ok ben d, will you help me with something because you know about this stuff? Everything in Creation blinks on and then off (it goes somewhere else part of the time). When things blink off, what is left here or is it just empty? And because everything in Creation has a wave frequency and an anti wave frequency, can dark energy be cancelled with it's anti wave frequency? If so what effect would that have on faster than light travel? And what effect would that have on the "zpe" forces that are in play normally and their affect on the creating of ineria? There seems to be some evidence that there are some folks from somewhere else that have huge vehicles that move without enertia and they blink out of one place and then blink in at another place
. How could this be done? And could this phenomenon be related to the OP question?
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AndromedaRXJ
Active Member
Light has mass...have you not heard of gravitational lensing in astronomical science..light is energy!!! Mass-energy means the mass of the energy...
Light doesn't have mass in the classical sense. Nothing with mass can travel the speed of light. Light has (or rather, is) energy. That's why it's effected by gravity.
mystic64
nolonger active
Not exactly Andromeda
. Light does have mass, but that mass is only present in our reality (the reality that can be measured) half of the time. The other half of the time that mass is somewhere else.
AndromedaRXJ
Active Member
Not exactly Andromeda
I think you got it backwards. Light has no measurable invarient mass (AKA proper mass, intrinsic mass, rest mass).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invariant_mass
But it has gravitational mass and inertial mass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass#Definitions_of_mass
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/does-light-have-mass.13745/
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Hi Mysitic....only 2.5% of the universe is detectable matter....and matter is comprised of the atomic elements... So universal bodies when they die explosively, be it galaxies, stars, etc., mainly revert to the energy state before once again reforming under gravitational forces. This is an eternal state of affairs, but nothing ever actually disappears absolutely...for example you talk of matter and anti-matter...when any particle mates with its anti-particle, say an electron and positron...there is annihilation according to E = MC^2, but the resultant energy in the form of a gamma ray will, when it comes in contact with matter, revert back to the the electron and positron.. Nothing can ever be taken from the universe, nor can anything ever be added to it...Ok ben d, will you help me with something because you know about this stuff? Everything in Creation blinks on and then off (it goes somewhere else part of the time). When things blink off, what is left here or is it just empty? And because everything in Creation has a wave frequency and an anti wave frequency, can dark energy be cancelled with it's anti wave frequency? If so what effect would that have on faster than light travel? And what effect would that have on the "zpe" forces that are in play normally and their affect on the creating of ineria? There seems to be some evidence that there are some folks from somewhere else that have huge vehicles that move without enertia and they blink out of one place and then blink in at another place
So far as inertia is concerned...some of the 'pressure' of zpe energy present here is due to the nearest stars, if the stars around these parts were to snuff it, then inertia would be reduced. There is nothing known about the 95% dark energy and matter and so we can't speculate much except to say that the associated energy would be a part of the zpe frequency continuum.
As to your question concerning zpe and FTL travel, yes...they would blink on and off as see by an observer in the physical domain....here is a link for a paper suggesting such a propulsion system using zpe to create a gravity center in front of the spacecraft....http://www.padrak.com/ine/ZPEFLIGHT.html
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Yes..... How would the mass energy stuff work out in a FTL (faster than light) spacecraft system as proposed in the paper linked to above?