Could some explain chapter Numbers 31

[FearGod]

You are having a problem reading your own religious texts.

It does NOT mean that, as anyone reading it can see.

And again - it is ridiculous to say after a war, which has killed your family and friends, - and taken you captive, - that your captor using you for sex, is somehow not rape!

It is RAPE - and will never change from that designation.

Did you miss those AND's?

33:50 O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation

AND those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives]

AND the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you

AND a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

SO - four separate group categories that he can have sex with!!!!

Wives, - and slaves (which is rape,) - and certain relatives, - and certain believing women.

Did you miss that second sentence in 33:50 that also DEFINITELY shows a DIFFERENCE between wives, - and captive sex possessions?

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"We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess,"

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And 33:51 does not say what you imply.

33:51 Thou canst defer whom thou wilt of them and receive unto thee whom thou wilt, and whomsoever thou desirest of those whom thou hast set aside (temporarily), it is no sin for thee (to receive her again); that is better; that they may be comforted and not grieve, and may all be pleased with what thou givest them. Allah knoweth what is in your hearts (O men), and Allah is ever Forgiving.

It merely says he can take whomever he wants, - put them aside, - take them again, etc.

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The slaves were freed by the prophet, they accepted Islam and became believers, the relation between
the prophet and the captives were wife and husband.

How all the captives turned to Islam and accepted to marry the prophet, if he was rude with them then how
they turned to Islam.

Discussing this matter is kind of a silly discussion because women before Islam has no value, so the prophet
weren't in need for Islam to have sex with women as they were available in tons for sex, Islam came to put
limits to such kind of life, females were buried alive and the prophet fought the disbelievers to save the life of
the females.

I believe in God and stay in your atheism, thank you and good luck.

 

[Ingledsva]

The slaves were freed by the prophet, they accepted Islam and became believers, the relation between the prophet and the captives were wife and husband.

How all the captives turned to Islam and accepted to marry the prophet, if he was rude with them then how
they turned to Islam.

Discussing this matter is kind of a silly discussion because women before Islam has no value, so the prophet
weren't in need for Islam to have sex with women as they were available in tons for sex, Islam came to put
limits to such kind of life, females were buried alive and the prophet fought the disbelievers to save the life of
the females.

I believe in God and stay in your atheism, thank you and good luck.

This is baloney - and the text where the men are worrying about having sex with the captured women in front of their captured husbands - shows it is RAPE! These women hadn't switched to Islam, - they weren't given time, they weren't given a right to say no to the RAPE! And the Prophet tells the men to go ahead and RAPE them.

It is pure BULL - to say that the kidnapped slaves were given time, and could say NO! Baloney!

Also as stated several times!!!!

We know they were NOT wives, - as the text separates wives, from these captives - whom his right had possessed!

That all captives used for sex, turned to Islam, so they could be used for sex by their enemy, is also BULL!

It also DOESN'T MATTER the way women were treated before Islam, - because after Islam they were obviously still being treated as lesser beings, - being abused, captive sex slaves, etc!

PS - Not an Atheist.

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[FearGod]

This is baloney - and the text where the men are worrying about having sex with the captured women in front of their captured husbands - shows it is RAPE! These women hadn't switched to Islam, - they weren't given time, they weren't given a right to say no to the RAPE! And the Prophet tells the men to go ahead and RAPE them.

It is pure BULL - to say that the kidnapped slaves were given time, and could say NO! Baloney!

Also as stated several times!!!!

We know they were NOT wives, - as the text separates wives, from these captives - whom his right had possessed!

That all captives used for sex, turned to Islam, so they could be used for sex by their enemy, is also BULL!

It also DOESN'T MATTER the way women were treated before Islam, - because after Islam they were obviously still being treated as lesser beings, - being abused, captive sex slaves, etc!

PS - Not an Atheist.

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The future explains the past.

A great nation raised by a rapist or group of rapists,
sorry it doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[Ingledsva]

The future explains the past.

A great nation raised by a rapist or group of rapists,
sorry it doesn't make any sense to me.

None the less - it is a fact - just as it is in the Bible's past, and Europe's, and the USA with black sex slaves too (Bible inspired.) Women are still being abused by patriarchal religions and cultures.

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[FearGod]

None the less - it is a fact - just as it is in the Bible's past, and Europe's, and the USA with black sex slaves too (Bible inspired.) Women are still being abused by patriarchal religions and cultures.

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Do you think the black slaves in the USA loved and respected their captors?
That's incomparable with Islam which equates between black and white,
Arabs and non Arabs.

The history is clear about the black slaves in the USA, but
were there any white slaves in Spain for the Muslim captors?

 

[Ingledsva]

Do you think the black slaves in the USA loved and respected their captors?
That's incomparable with Islam which equates between black and white,
Arabs and non Arabs.

The history is clear about the black slaves in the USA, but
were there any white slaves in Spain for the Muslim captors?

What are you trying to say?

That every slave captured by Islamic warriors loved their captors? That is absolutely ridiculous.

It does not matter what color people are, or what their religion. If anyone uses captives/slaves for sex, - then they RAPE CAPTIVES.

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