Couldn't have said it better myself...

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I could point to those who have come to Jesus over the years and have changed lives because of that, or to testimonies of people who say just how they came to Jesus and what happened subsequently but it sounds like you want some sort of proof of God and proof that He is who has performed miracles in people's lives, as opposed to just me giving what I call evidence.

Nevertheless in the story of humanity in the Bible, God's continued trying to being humanity back to Him and to forgiveness and eternal life does show a caring God and sending Jesus to atone for sin shows His love for us.

And then there are the countless Christians who sin quite a bit, including some very heinous sins.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I am amazed sometimes how antiabortionists can be so ignorant of what can go wrong in a pregnancy. Being pregnant can be very hazardous for women.

We don’t teach sex ed competently.

 

[Muffled]

A baby who lives a short life remains innocent and some who have mental problems might also be in that category.

I believe most likely they had sinful previous lives.

 

[Muffled]

We all sin and so are all guilty and under condemnation, but Jesus can have mercy on anyone at the judgement. (see Matt 25:31-46)
When I say we all sin that means that those who can sin have probably sinned.

I believe we might get mercy but we absolutely get forgiveness.

 

[Muffled]

I don't believe that the Quran is the Word of God.
Muhammad is a false prophet and if an angel appeared to him it was Satan or another demon.
This is the Biblical teaching.
Jesus is the Way, the Truth, the Life, nobody can come to the Father but through Him.

I believe you have no evidence or spiritual guidance to support that view. I believe it is a prejudicial view.

I believe I am not sure what you are referring to but it certainly wasn't the previous sentence.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I believe most likely they had sinful previous lives.

Previous lives? That is not a Christian belief.

 

[YoursTrue]

Maybe you should?

People = homo sapiens (species)
Genus: Homo
Tribe: Hominini
Subfamily: Homininae
Family: Hominidae
Infraorder: Simiiformes
Suborder: Haplorhini
Order: Primates
Class: Mammalia
Phylum: Chordata
Kingdom: Animalia

People are animals.

according to you and some others. Granted some people act like animals.

 

[YoursTrue]

Christians have a very difficult time understanding why substitutionary atonement is evil in its nature.

Since you don't believe in the creation and fall of Adam, you obviously do not understand the unfolding of history and the decision of God. But! -- have a nice day.
Maybe you think evolution by natural selection is inherently without pain?

 

[YoursTrue]

Need it conform to the beliefs of Christians here? It seems that if it is a common thing in Christianity then a religious forum is a good place to discuss it.



I'm not sure. I just like discussing the concepts brought up by the cartoon.



It need not be. Hell and brimstone preaching is what it is. Calling it out through satire is a legitimate way of countering their own inaccuracy.



That was meant to point out that the relationship between god and people should be transactional.



Exactly that in both my suggested edit and the original cartoon, fear is a factor in the percieved relationship between god and humans.



I'm here for the discussion so yeah, that works.



If it didn't change the meaning then it is still a stereotype, right? I think it did change the meaning, though maybe not the theme. The theme remains a creator god using fear to keep folks in line. Christians may agree with this, but this is an interesting thing to discuss: Is it a healthy relationship?

Do you believe that death is part of the equation of evolution by means of natural selection?

 

[YoursTrue]

A little of both. There are plenty of Christians who believe they are "good" and that they will be rewarded with heaven while lots of bad people roast in hell.



One of the Christian concepts of hell is that it is a place of suffering because of the absence of God and his love. But, if you love someone only to avoid something like suffering it is a hostage situation, no? Stockholm Syndrome may be a stretch, but it is parody.

That may be true about what some people believe, but that doesn't make it so. When I have more time perhaps I will discuss what the word 'hell' really means and unfortunately has been so distorted over the centuries.

 

[Subduction Zone]

according to you and some others. Granted some people act like animals.

People like you. You are an animal. Or are you a tree? You probably walk too quickly to be one.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Since you don't believe in the creation and fall of Adam, you obviously do not understand the unfolding of history and the decision of God. But! -- have a nice day.
Maybe you think evolution by natural selection is inherently without pain?

LOL! Do you think that you do? It is a myth. Technically no one can understand it.

That still does not excuse your belief that God is a liar. Now you obviously do not understand how you believe this. Your denial will not be valid since you refuse to learn the concept of evidence.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That may be true about what some people believe, but that doesn't make it so. When I have more time perhaps I will discuss what the word 'hell' really means and unfortunately has been so distorted over the centuries.

It appears that this will just be your personal version of hell.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Do you believe that death is part of the equation of evolution by means of natural selection?

I think death is a limitation of biology brought about by physical laws. It is necessarily a part of evolution, and that includes the natural selection part of evolution (noting that natural selection is an incomplete and simplistic description for what actually occurs).

 

[Guitar's Cry]

That may be true about what some people believe, but that doesn't make it so. When I have more time perhaps I will discuss what the word 'hell' really means and unfortunately has been so distorted over the centuries.

Okie doke!

 

[Heyo]

according to you and some others.

According to biology textbooks. You'd know that if you went to school.

 

[Heyo]

Do you believe that death is part of the equation of evolution by means of natural selection?

Technically death isn't necessary for natural selection to work. Important is that the selection process "decides" who gets to reproduce.

 

[YoursTrue]

Technically death isn't necessary for natural selection to work. Important is that the selection process "decides" who gets to reproduce.

No? Technically death is not necessary for natural selection to work? Is it part of the process of evolution, with or without natural selection?

 

[YoursTrue]

According to biology textbooks. You'd know that if you went to school.

Really, all I have to do now is read your replies saying what you know and believe as well as others here. Who needs school when you're around to explain things?

 

[YoursTrue]

According to biology textbooks. You'd know that if you went to school.

I agree that's what biology textbooks say. When I went to school I learned and believed what they taught me. About evolution. As if it's true. That's the way it is because that's what scientists and textbooks say.