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Counterfeit Twenties

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I think Floyd was in bad health and drunk

had he been sober
not smoking at the time

he might still be alive
 

Skreeper

Member
I think Floyd was in bad health and drunk

had he been sober
not smoking at the time

he might still be alive

If that pig didn't press his knee on his neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds he would still be alive too.

If your intend with this thread was to convince us that you're a really big a-hole then you're doing a pretty good job.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
If that pig didn't press his knee on his neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds he would still be alive too.

If your intend with this thread was to convince us that you're a really big a-hole then you're doing a pretty good job.
psssst…...personal attacks are against the rules here
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
The struggle apparently preceded that. I consider Floyd as partly responsible for the events that transpired. And don't try to twist my words into me saying what happened was justified.
They didn't throw him down and push their knees into his neck after the supposed "struggle" you cite. It was much later when he was not struggling at all.

You want to hold him partly responsible for his own death at the hands of the cops? Seems to me, like that kind of attitude may be the reason we see masses of people protesting in the streets. They're tired of it. The old line about "just comply and everything will be alright" doesn't hold up in reality. It seems no matter what a person of colour does in engaging with police, they are risking their lives - whether it be a simple traffic stop (black people are pulled over much more than most anyone else) or a supposed counterfeit bill, or whatever. Imagine being pulled over for say, failing to signal a turn and having to fear that if you make one single wrong move, you might be killed. I've never felt that and I can't imagine how terrible it must be. Imagine how hard it must be to stay calm in such a situation as well.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
more whites are shot and killed by cops than any other group

saw that somewhere
maybe someone else has seen it?
 

Tambourine

Well-Known Member
Seriously, the idea that I could be shot dead by a police officer simply because I made a "wrong" move would be terrifying for me. I cannot imagine how Americans can live like this and think this is somehow okay, or even a superior way how to run a society. I guess calling all these victims of police "criminals" and imagining that only "bad people" get killed by police may be a way to cope with this issue.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
They didn't throw him down and push their knees into his neck after the supposed "struggle" you cite. It was much later when he was not struggling at all.

You want to hold him partly responsible for his own death at the hands of the cops? Seems to me, like that kind of attitude may be the reason we see masses of people protesting in the streets. They're tired of it. The old line about "just comply and everything will be alright" doesn't hold up in reality. It seems no matter what a person of colour does in engaging with police, they are risking their lives - whether it be a simple traffic stop (black people are pulled over much more than most anyone else) or a supposed counterfeit bill, or whatever. Imagine being pulled over for say, failing to signal a turn and having to fear that if you make one single wrong move, you might be killed. I've never felt that and I can't imagine how terrible it must be. Imagine how hard it must be to stay calm in such a situation as well.
The way I see it you are supposed to co-operate with police orders. As soon as you do not the officer is in a belligerent situation where his life and health can be on the line. Bad things happen to police everyday (if that's a concern too for you). The police have a very stressful job and one that I and many would not want to do.

As soon as a suspect struggles with them the suspect is responsible for escalating the danger of the situation. And again don't twist my words into saying Floyd deserved to die.

As far as co-operative people being killed that is an almost non-existent situation unless some confusion occurs.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
The way I see it you are supposed to co-operate with police orders. As soon as you do not the officer is in a belligerent situation where his life and health can be on the line. Bad things happen to police everyday (if that's a concern too for you). The police have a very stressful job and one that I and many would not want to do.

As soon as a suspect struggles with them the suspect is responsible for escalating the danger of the situation. And again don't twist my words into saying Floyd deserved to die.

It seems as though you aren't even reading through my posts.

As far as co-operative people being killed that is an almost non-existent situation unless some confusion occurs.
You really need to look around more. It happens quite often. Hence all the protests and the anger.
Heck, you didn't even respond to the part of my post where I addressed your "co-operative people don't get killed by cops" assertions.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
@Revoltingest posted a scene of a white getting shot to death

lots of cooperation there

so no.....It's not a 'color' problem

but hey.....there are problems
think the busted store fronts help?
arson is the answer?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
@Revoltingest posted a scene of a white getting shot to death

lots of cooperation there

so no.....It's not a 'color' problem

but hey.....there are problems
think the busted store fronts help?
arson is the answer?
As I observe things, there are racial problems, but
the general problem of police violence is larger.
Note that an even bigger problem than race is
gender, with males being killed at a rate 20
times women....an order of magnitude greater
than black vs white.
Yet we know it would be wrong to say "Male lives matter".
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
On a side note, since we used to call the 1920s the "Roaring 20s," how about if we call the 2020s the "Counterfeit 20s"?
 
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