Countries banning of kosher meats are forcing "expulsion" of Jews

[We Never Know]

I never said that. Wow, strawmanning me too. You're on a roll.


Empathy. Humans have empathy. One way we determine what is wrong vs right is by utilising, or not, empathy. Sometimes we don't have a choice in the matter. For instance, kittens. As an observation, we tend to empathise more with beings that are more like us. Mammals are more like us.


Huh? Efficiency = rights?

Do all animals have the same rights?

Why only empathy for only certain animals and not others. We are all just animals of nature.

I didn't say efficiency = rights. I simply said other species do earth and other animals better than us.

 

[We Never Know]

Seriously, stop before things get worse for you.

Bring it on big boy. You whine and cry about the dove but not the buzzard, so to speak.

 

[charlie sc]

Do all animals have the same rights?

Animals don't have rights as far as I'm aware but there are animal protection laws. They cannot enter into a social contract with us.

Why only empathy for only certain animals and not others. We are all just animals of nature.

There are psychological explanation and perspectives. There's also philosophical and cultural ones. There are many reasons. Though, I don't think this is the answer you're looking for.

I didn't say efficiency = rights. I simply said other species do earth and other animals better than us.

So?

Bring it on big boy. You whine and cry about the dove but not the buzzard, so to speak.

What do I need to bring? So far you've spammed tu quoque fallacies, strawmanned me and showed very little knowledge and appreciation of this topic. This is like arguing with an adolescent; you're arrogant of your own ignorance.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Then tell me what it is about if I'm wrong.

It is about the fact that stunning an animal is more humane than halal or kosher slaughter. It is not perfect, but it clearly involves less pain for the animals being killed. The less humane methods have been outlawed in some European countries. That was misinterpreted as being anti-Semtic in the OP, and an attempt to evict Jews from Europe.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Seriously, stop before things get worse for you.

I see that you do not know him very well.

 

[We Never Know]

Animals don't have rights as far as I'm aware but there are animal protection laws. They cannot enter into a social contract with us.


There are psychological explanation and perspectives. There's also philosophical and cultural ones. There are many reasons. Though, I don't think this is the answer you're looking for.


So?


What do I need to bring? So far you've spammed tu quoque fallacies, strawmanned me and showed very little knowledge and appreciation of this topic. This is like arguing with an adolescent; you're arrogant of your own ignorance.

Animals don't have rights? What's you argument here then?

So you say. Just clearing you up.

Address the post or be gone. Debates aren't won by cry fallacy. They are won by addressing the post.

 

[We Never Know]

It is about the fact that stunning an animal is more humane than halal or kosher slaughter. It is not perfect, but it clearly involves less pain for the animals being killed. The less humane methods have been outlawed in some European countries. That was misinterpreted as being anti-Semtic in the OP, and an attempt to evict Jews from Europe.

And what did I say it was about?

 

[Subduction Zone]

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And what did I say it was about?

We are done. Perhaps @charlie sc will want to play with you.

 

[charlie sc]

Animals don't have rights? What's you argument here then?

You seem to think that animals not having rights means they cannot be treated humanely. If this is what you're saying, you're wrong. lol..

So you say. Just clearing you up.

I don't think you could clear anything up, let alone a debate.

Address the post or be gone. Debates aren't won by cry fallacy. They are won by addressing the post.

Huh? The problem is that you're trying to win something when you have no idea what's going on. Fallacious reasoning does not go anywhere because they're illogical and irrational.

 

[We Never Know]

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We are done. Perhaps @charlie sc will want to play with you.

Is this the point I should claim you are running like you do with everyone

 

[charlie sc]

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We are done. Perhaps @charlie sc will want to play with you.

It's like being back in kindergarten.

 

[We Never Know]

You seem to think that animals not having rights means they cannot be treated humanely. If this is what you're saying, you're wrong. lol..


I don't think you could clear anything up, let alone a debate.


Huh? The problem is that you're trying to win something when you have no idea what's going on. Fallacious reasoning does not go anywhere because they're illogical and irrational.

Will you treat a roach as humanely as a dog? Why or why not. They both are just animals.

What is going on? Let's just see how lost you are.

 

[charlie sc]

Will you treat a roach as humanely as a dog? Why or why not. They both are just animals.

What is going on? Let's just see how lost you are.

I won't go in-depth with you because I don't think you can handle it and you're displaying a wilful ignorant approach. I will however humour myself.

Buddhists. Buddhist will treat a cockroach as they might a dog

 

[We Never Know]

I won't go in-depth with you because I don't think you can handle it and you're displaying a wilful ignorant approach. I will however humour myself.

Buddhists. Buddhist will treat a cockroach as they might a dog

Then bye bye now.

 

[charlie sc]

Then bye bye now.

Best thing you've said so far.

Cya.

 

[We Never Know]

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We are done. Perhaps @charlie sc will want to play with you.

Oh please. You pull the same crap about every night with someone. And from what I understand that is why you have been suspended several times. Don't deny it.

If it isn't working, the fault just may lay within you. Try changing your demeanor and see how that goes. Of course that's just a suggestion.

 

[We Never Know]

Best thing you've said so far.

Cya.

Go back to your kindergarten class and learn. Ciao

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

This butchering, if it didn't have anything to do with religion, you wouldn't care.
How's it worse that hunting with a bow?

Yes, it would be just as bad. Because we have the means to make it more humane, and this animal - livestock - is placed in our care.

The hunting example has been tried, and it fails. Why? Because we hunt deer to keep their populations down to a livable level, so that they don't a) overrun our cities and towns and b) eat and destroy everything, harming the ecosystem around them. We must become their check, because the wolves have been driven off to make civilization safe. Guns are not safe to use more often than not because hunting is done near and in residential areas, and poses a threat to human life. Arrows don't pass through the animal, bullets do. So which would you rather have; bows or wolves?

 

[We Never Know]

Yes, it would be just as bad. Because we have the means to make it more humane, and this animal - livestock - is placed in our care.

The hunting example has been tried, and it fails. Why? Because we hunt deer to keep their populations down to a livable level, so that they don't a) overrun our cities and towns and b) eat and destroy everything, harming the ecosystem around them. We must become their check, because the wolves have been driven off to make civilization safe. Guns are not safe to use more often than not because hunting is done near and in residential areas, and poses a threat to human life. Arrows don't pass through the animal, bullets do. So which would you rather have; bows or wolves?

Do you complain the same about fish, worms, roaches, snakes, etc. If not then all you are doing is complaining by an opinion, not humanity.

 

[We Never Know]

Yes, it would be just as bad. Because we have the means to make it more humane, and this animal - livestock - is placed in our care.

The hunting example has been tried, and it fails. Why? Because we hunt deer to keep their populations down to a livable level, so that they don't a) overrun our cities and towns and b) eat and destroy everything, harming the ecosystem around them. We must become their check, because the wolves have been driven off to make civilization safe. Guns are not safe to use more often than not because hunting is done near and in residential areas, and poses a threat to human life. Arrows don't pass through the animal, bullets do. So which would you rather have; bows or wolves?

Guns are more humane than bows because guns offer a kill more than bows.