Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
What I'm looking for, Bereanz, is something like this:
"The ToE states that..."
or
"According to ToE, ..."
Something like that.
"The ToE states that..."
or
"According to ToE, ..."
Something like that.
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Creationist - what is your understanding of TOE?
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outhouse
Atheistically
well atleast he admits he only follows 3000 year old sheepherders writings
But i know he enjoys refridgeration, and modern medicine and anti biotics have surely cured him in the past,,,,, he writes from his computer and watched TV and drives to work <<<<<<<<<< but dang those scientist dont know anything lol.... unless your writing from the library while someone is watching your flock of sheep id say your fresh out of credibility
The fact that its even "a tiny little piece" is the tiny little piece, which links to the other huge piece that you call "evolution" I don't and cant possibly agree with. I call that the reproductive system so do most scientists, which is God given not chaos or chance given, nor evolved.
The one thing I really appreciate about a tiny little piece of your last post is that you where honest. Get that man a cigar. :yes:
Tell me,if you will, how did human languages evolve. I believe the tower of Babel explaination. How do you explain this "Scientifically."
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A lot of Christians are scientists. How do you know these inventions and discoveries (which are clearly marvelous and noteworthy, no argument there, (accept maybe the hellivision) weren't made by people with faith? You cant claim that every scientist is an ignorant blind fool. Nor can you claim that all these marvelous discoveries where made by men who believe in evolution. Wise up sunshine. I'm not sure many of the scibes of holywrit where Shepards as their sole and only vocation. King David was a Shepherd as a boy. Who else..?
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I believe you also looking for evidence. I can only provide evidence that proves you're wasting your time looking.
Does this mean that we can expect to see the human thumb increase in dexterity in a hundred million years due to the invention of game boy, playstation and X box? And the Human foot to perhaps evolve into the shape of Nike training shoe in the very near future or will that be 10 million years in the making, sheeesh its just so darned painfully slow - who is this cosmic snail of a god the pantheist believe in. My take is he's on drugs, they've made him very lethargic............. We're just letting anybody in here now.....
Evolution is fact. Any biologist in the field of medicine will tell you that. In order to understand disease you need an understanding of the virus. I use Influenza because it's one of the easiest viruses in our history to understand especially concerning evolution.
Influenza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Three influenza pandemics occurred in the 20th century and killed tens of millions of people, with each of these pandemics being caused by the appearance of a new strain of the virus in humans. Often, these new strains appear when an existing flu virus spreads to humans from other animal species, or when an existing human strain picks up new genes from a virus that usually infects birds or pigs. An avian strain named H5N1 raised the concern of a new influenza pandemic, after it emerged in Asia in the 1990s, but it has not evolved to a form that spreads easily between people. In April 2009 a novel flu strain evolved that combined genes from human, pig, and bird flu, initially dubbed "swine flu" and also known as influenza A/H1N1, emerged in Mexico, the United States, and several other nations.......
Click the link above for more detail.
We also know of a bacteria that seems to serve no purpose to humans and seems to diet on a man made product. What we now need to know from creationist is how is that possible? Where would this bacteria come from before the creation of this man made product and if it existed before the man made product what did it survive on? Since the creation of the man made product why is it now feeding on it? The fact that the virus exist and is feeding on the product is exactly what we should expect in regards to evolution.
Nylon-eating bacteria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In 1975 a team of Japanese scientists discovered a strain of Flavobacterium, living in ponds containing waste water from a nylon factory, that was capable of digesting certain byproducts of nylon 6 manufacture, such as the linear dimer of 6-aminohexanoate, even though those substances are not known to have existed before the invention of nylon in 1935. Further study revealed that the three enzymes the bacteria were using to digest the byproducts were significantly different from any other enzymes produced by other Flavobacterium strains (or any other bacteria for that matter), and not effective on any material other than the manmade nylon byproducts.
This discovery led geneticist Susumu Ohno to speculate that the gene for one of the enzymes, 6-aminohexanoic acid hydrolase, had come about from the combination of a gene duplication event with a frame shift mutation. Ohno suggested that many unique new genes have evolved this way.
A series of recent studies by a team led by Seiji Negoro of the University of Hyogo, Japan, suggest that in fact no frameshift mutation was involved in the evolution of the 6-aminohexanoic acid hydrolase.However, many other genes have been discovered which did evolve by gene duplication followed by a frameshift mutation affecting at least part of the gene. A 2006 study found 470 examples in humans alone.
Scientists have also been able to induce another species of bacteria, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, to evolve the capability to break down the same nylon byproducts in a laboratory by forcing them to live in an environment with no other source of nutrients. The P. aeruginosa strain did not seem to use the same enzymes that had been utilized by the original Flavobacterium strain. Other scientists were able to get the ability to generate the enzymes to transfer from the Flavobacterium strain to a strain of E. coli bacteria via a plasmid transfer.
Evolution is fact.....
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Many probably were. I do know however that they did not let their faith blind them to facts.
I would have to research the dates, but if they come from late 19th century or later, then it is a good bet that nearly all of them do indeed believe in evolution. Or more properly, are aware of it. Evolution is not a "belief".
Uh?
What about the Theory of Evolution itself? What do you know or expect it to say?
Not really, because our society is not that of hunterers and gatherers. There is no longer a significant survival or reproductive advantage in random mutations.
outhouse
Atheistically
yes but this only means you pick and chooose with no rhime or reason which science you want based on personal opinion only!!! with no education to make a valid point against evolution.
Yes many scientist were christian, the people who started evolution were christian creationist who observed enough facts they made the theory of evolution and layed a solid foundation you cant shake because pf lack of education and personal bias
You've already admitted your education comes from sporadic 5 minute google searches when your lost for words?
The Christian faith is all factual. A professing Christian who believes in certain doctrines of Evolution has already been blinded by propaganda. The theory of Evolution is intirely faith based (Even Dawkins admits this publically). Its based on a jigsaw with so many missing pieces that one needs an exceptional imagination to make the invisible, visible.
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dallas1125
Covert Operative
Well, everything is based upon faith, some more than others. For some, it is faith based upon evidence. For others its faith based upon a lack of evidence.
Not everything. But I suspect we will need to clairfy the definition of "faith" if we are going to agree on a premise of exactly what it is. But let's not go there.
dallas1125
Covert Operative
Your right, this is not part of the thread.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
Nope. That's not how evolution works. Overall the percentage of game players on the planet is relatively small and game players aren't playing 24/7 so there is no need for the increase in dexterity.
Nope. Again, that's not how evolution works. Our feet have evolved. Our ancestors feet were adapted in ways similar to what we see in current day primates but we don't have a need to be in the trees or do lots of climbing or gripping with our feet. The structure of our feet is perfect for standing upright and "assisting in maintaining" our balance. They are perfect in supporting our skeletal system.
McBell
Unbound
Now I am just going to have to stop beating around the bush and just flat out call it like it is...
You are a bold faced liar.
And a proud ignorant one at that.
Welcome to world of ignore.
Dirty Penguin
Master Of Ceremony
Here's an honest question. What do you really know about the Theory Of Evolution? The reason I ask is if you don't know then we can help clarify some things. If you believe you have an understanding but disagree with it, it is helpful for you to give your reasons why.
I want to keep an open, honest and civil dialogue. I promise not to ridicule you or the religion you profess.
Thanks for that explaination. How did language evolve, in particular all the different dialects in the world, and why did Evolution in it's wisdom see fit to evolve so many? And why over time do they devolve in complexity rather than evolve?
And did the different races of human beings evolve from different species of primates? Evolution science, given that it has not found all the links for conclusive proof of it's theory, appear to suggest that all human races evolved from the same line of early man, is that right?
Also what about carbon 14 dating? The inventor, Professor W.F Libby admitted: 1946 "It is noteworthy that the earliest astronomical fix is at 4000 years ago, that all other older dates have errors, and that these are more or less cumulative with time before 4000 years ago. (Source "The Genisis Flood: pp 116-126)
So, what does "Science" use now to confirm the age of the earth and the universe without error?
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
Here's you sign.....
On Day Six...Man was made. In that verse the word 'man' is not a singular item. It is a proper noun used by people of that time, to refer to all men as a whole...'mankind'. (homo sapiens was termed centuries later).
If the word 'mankind' had been used...we would not be having this discussion now.
Man was made..male and female..and turned loose on the earth...to multiply...and subdue it. There are no names...no restrictions...no law...no boundaries.
On Day Seven...nothing more is created. God rests.
Chapter Two, is actually Day Eight.
The book doesn't say so.
But it should not have been needed to say so. It's obvious.
The Six Days of Creation are done. Day Seven...done.
What happens in Chapter Two is a separate event altogether.
Apparently...(and yes I can do this)...God is not yet...satisfied.
So He takes a man...which He made out of dust...and places Him into ideal living conditions.
The Man develops well...more so than his wandering counterparts...but his situation is confined solitude.
So he is given anesthesia, and his rib is taken. That's surgery.
The rib is increased to full stature. That's cloning.
That the clone will be female, is done in process. Genetic engineering.
Adam was given his twin sister for a bride.
She looked like him....but not quite....no navel.
All of this is manipulation...not the creative process.
That Adam was made of dust...does not make him unique.
What makes him unique...he is the first chosen Son of God.
YOU are also made of dust.
From the moment of conception your mother ate for two.
Everything she ate, came up from the ground and became you.
Back to the ground you will go.
The above was taken from a thread I wrote back in 09.....
Intellectually I find it odd....
Give Man a story...and he will believe it.
Tell a man how it becomes possible...he stops believing.