David M
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I already have..You truly know sqaut don't you. Wiki summarises alot of the evidence, cites and references the research. My evidence is backed up. So far all I have heard from you is misinformation, misinterpretation and downright ignorance. You may be able to find work that supports just your view. Unfortuntely for you, science doesn't hang on what you think or your narrow views. True scientists accept the full body of work and acknowlege it in putting forward their findings.
The work that supports my view is the very things that you are quoting. And those things perfectly illustrate that you are still making the same mistake in wilfully failing to differentiate between tribe (which is a smoke screen that you raised) and genus (which is the term I used).
In your desperatation to avoid admitting that reputable scientists were only ever discussing where "hobbits" fitted into the Genus homo you just keep digging yourself into a deeper hole.
...according to Wiki and all other evolutionary scientists Hominini does include bonobo and chimpanzee.
According to your sources:
Is Hominini a tribe or a genus? Simple question.
What Genus are the bonobo and chimpanzee? Simple question.
What Genus are modern humans? Simple question.
What Genus were "hobbits" in every single mention in your quotes? Simple question.
Just so you don't make yourself look even more desparate H. Sapiens is Genus and Species not Tribe and Species, just like it is for all life.
So there you are out in orbit on your own with your credentials in hand. You need to stop referring to a comic book. So floresiensis may have been a modern human or a chimp according to your researchers...
Either a lie or complete ignorance. Both quotes you provided placed floresiensis in the Genus Homo and not in the Genus Pan.
Provide evidence of a researcher saying that "hobbits" should be P. floresiensis or retract.
that says it all. I do not pretend to have credentials. I can use the words of your own evolutionary researchers to fight you with. The laugh is, that you do not even accept the words or resesrch from your own scientists if it doesn't meld with your ego.
No, you are ignoring what the researchers said and flat out misrepresenting the facts.
Boy am I going to have some fun if these lunatics ever put chimps in the homo line like some are trying to. Go on have a go at that statement, and call it a lie and show your ignorance yet again. Please......
Provide evidence that any reputable scientist is arguing that chimpanzees should be in the H. sapiens line or admit that its a lie.
Here...learn....
In your case, read and look up the hard words in a dictionary.
Wiki Floresiensis
The discoverers (archaeologist Mike Morwood and colleagues) proposed that a variety of features, both primitive and derived, identify these individuals as belonging to a new species, H. floresiensis, within the taxonomic tribe of Hominini. Hominini currently comprises the extant species human (the only living member of the genus Homo), bonobo (genus Pan), and chimpanzee (genus Pan); their ancestors; and the extinct lineages of their common ancestor.[1][3] The discoverers also proposed that H. floresiensis lived contemporaneously with modern humans (Homo sapiens) on Flores.[4]
Tribe and Genus are different things. This quote shows that they are talking about where H. floresiensis fits within the Genus Homo. The big hint is that they are calling them Homo floresiensis.
Wiki Homonini
Hominini is the tribe of Homininae that comprises Humans (Homo), and two species of the genus Pan (the Common Chimpanzee and the Bonobo), their ancestors, and the extinct lineages of their common ancestor. Members of the tribe are called hominins (cf. Hominidae, "hominids"). The subtribe Hominina is the "human" branch,including genus Homoand its close relatives, but not Pan
Again you prove my point and demonstrate your ignorance. I've highlighted the important concepts. Floresiensis is in the genus Homo (Human being) and chimps and bononos are in the Genus Pan.
So again, provide evidence of reputable scientist disputing that "hobbits" are members of the Genus Homo (a word that means human being) or admit your ignorance on the subject.
Alternatively you can post another section from Wiki or Science Daily that demonstrates that all the reseachers are placing "hobbits" in the genus Homo.
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