Do you understand how eternal and oft repeating this sounds?
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Creationists, please provide evidence
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outhouse
Atheistically
really
It reads exactly like one of many pagan myth's previous to these words.
Are you saying it does not match previous pagan myths???
we know the bible is full of myths like hades
The Bible isn't a one-off phenom.
It's a new rendition of things that have been repeating for thousands and thousands of years.
The reason it has such a profound impact on our psyche and culture is because it references anything but that which is primitive. Rather, it is the tattered remnants of understanding of very high civilization that has existed in the past on this planet.
If we have an armageddon and all of the industrial world is rendered totally non functional and we go back to primitive times, our era of history will be looked back upon with great wonder and amazement. There shall be stories, myths, legends. And, along with this, there shall also be those who will prophecy the return of the civilization that enables this very high state of living again.
Wake up! You are among the gods the ancient world so marvelled about...
The Neo Nerd
Well-Known Member
Can you tell us more about this pre existent civilisation.
Well, there are a lot of old myths and legends about them. The legends of Atlantis come quickly to mind. There is also the ancient global civilization that the Atlanteans were at war with that were called the Rama civilization. There are also others. One of the best researchers into this field of inquiry is Graham Hancock. You might want to see the data he has assembed from other researchers. There are some YouTube vids and he has authored some books.
outhouse
Atheistically
wrong
hebrews started out as a culture in 1250 BC ,,,,,,, the OT was started around 1000 BC when two books were written roughly 40 years apart ish
the two books were combined in 722 BC
these tales in these books were told orally for 300-500 years before they were written down
these are facts
get a education this is laughable
ancient hebrews were never advanced, they were one of the more stupid societys out there.
sumerians and egyptians were both had advanced civilizations, that why the nomadic semetic speaking hebrews WHO HAD NOTHING took previous pagan storys to call their own.
Hebrews came from sumerian and egyptian cultures.
Ive seen grade school kids with a better knowledge of history then you
Not at all. Adam,as the first human, was a direct creation by God. God himself is the Source of life.(Psalms 36:9) Like time, space, and numbers, God is infinite, and has existed always.(Psalms 90:1,2)
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
Seeing as the Bible is evidence of nothing but the the fact that the Bible exists, what is your evidence for this claim?
What's laughable is the fact that you obviously didn't understand a word I said.wrong
hebrews started out as a culture in 1250 BC ,,,,,,, the OT was started around 1000 BC when two books were written roughly 40 years apart ish
the two books were combined in 722 BC
these tales in these books were told orally for 300-500 years before they were written down
these are facts
get a education this is laughable
ancient hebrews were never advanced, they were one of the more stupid societys out there.
sumerians and egyptians were both had advanced civilizations, that why the nomadic semetic speaking hebrews WHO HAD NOTHING took previous pagan storys to call their own.
Hebrews came from sumerian and egyptian cultures.
Ive seen grade school kids with a better knowledge of history then you
McBell
Admiral Obvious
what is interesting is that you think the problem is everyone else and NOT what you are "saying"...
There is an Adam for each cycle of creation. This planet has hosted many cycles of creation. Adam is a societal body, not just a person. It is a "living" body that attains the goal of individual liberty "under God". It is a golden age society that achieves a level of prosperity even better than we now enjoy.
The USA is the closest approximation to it but this was just the "dry land" precursor that allows for the higher order creation to come to pass. The best is yet to come.
The USA was actually the setting for the Garden of Eden and Adam did come forth, but the USA rejected, persecuted and drove them out. Adam was the first "living" soul in his day. All had gone to apostasy and none had the level of "life" comparable to what Adam attained to. He came as the Father to teach us all things and to establish the Kingdom of God that Jesus said to pray for the coming of. His "breath of life" was the same that Jesus gave to His disciples as recorded in John 20:22. He laid His hands on their heads, breathed upon them and said unto them "receive ye the Holy Ghost". This is what distinguished Adam as the first "living" man. He was surrounded by zombies. All Adams come forth this way. Those who join in with Him and His Bride also receive the "breath of life" and become a part of their body. This is why Eve is called the "mother of all living" because in the same ordinance to become a member of Jesus Christ's church you receive the "breath of life". It is done exactly the same way that Jesus did it with exactly the same authority of the Melchizedek Priesthood. This is the time of man's spiritual resurrection. He passes from spiritual death to spiritual life in that the Holy Ghost literally dwells within him. Separation from God (Holy Ghost is 3rd member of the Godhead) is spiritual death so reunion with God is spiritual resurrection. The resurrection Christians are looking for has been available to them for almost 200 years now because Adam and His Bride came and are yet here, only He and His Bride are now in a fallen state awaiting their redemption. They are soon to suffer a scourge and judgment that will cleanse their bodies of the forbidden fruit they have partaken of that they should not have permitted to enter in.
The creation account in Genesis is NOT about the origin of the species of humans upon this planet. It is the account of the creation of the Kingdom of God as it goes between disorganization and full organization with human kind as the dust flecks it is made from. All of that cosmic sounding stuff is just metaphor intended to speak literally and explicitly of what I just mentioned above. You won't understand the Bible in a simple and literal manner until you learn to decode it along the lines as I have suggested. I have merely given a tiny tip of a massive iceberg of information. The rest is up to you to decipher. Until you do so, please stop making a mockery of things.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
The_Evelyonian
Old-School Member
Oneatatime
Huh?
Creationists can't prove their claim scientifically because science doesn't deal with supernatural claims.
The Neo Nerd
Well-Known Member
Or fairy tales
Or because they don't know how to decipher holy writ into practical terms.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
Does anyone? How many have been killed over minor differences in deciphering holy writ?
Science has no place interpreting scripture just as churches have no place demanding the sun goes around the earth.
wa:do
The same principles apply at unearthing Biblical truth just the same as they apply at unearthing other truths. Killing takes place in the scientific realm as well.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
Really?
What sort of controlled experiments are done? How do you tell if one persons prayers are more effective than another?
I've yet to see one group of scientists rounded up and killed by another group because they disagreed.
wa:do
Matters of spirituality are personal. I apply the scientific method for my own pursuit of truth. The principles are sound. You must be objective and isolate out all potential influences. When a passage is read you need to keep in mind how many variant readings those words can accommodate and find ways to rule errant ones out in order to pin down which one is solid. Every jot must count.
There have been a lot of inventors and/or scientists killed by people with vested interests. Also, there have been a lot of people's research thrown to the wolves due to vested interests. The principles are the same in both environments. The reason being is that human nature is the same.