Herman Tripleton
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What characteristics would something that isn't designed have?
I have no idea as every thing in the known universe is designed.
I'm sorry, but I had to chuckle at this. It is true, quantum mechanics allows you to pull matter (energy) from nowhere, as long as it exists for a very short amount of time (very short). I'm a second year college student and I know that. Quantum mechanics is accepted. Period. No ifs ands or buts.
The theories that postulate the universe always existed aren't, at least to my knowledge, but the theory that our universe came from nothing (zero energy) is well known, and accepted by scientists.
There are all sorts of contentions as to the implications, interpretations, and opinions of how exactly it is that quantum mechanics apply to observable reality. That being said, for a fledgling science it has amazing potentials. As for pulling matter from nowhere, I would be curious to know if these are only paper calculations or if they are observable occurrences? Can you elaborate on this?
The last I heard, Zero Point Energy still required a catalyst.
No, it's like this:
In order to demonstrate that something was created you'd have to be able to show how it can be differentiated from something that is not created. Because you deny the possibility that anything is not created you also in effect deny the possibility of finding a way to differentiate created from un-created. Thus by extension you deny the existence of any way to prove anything is created.
That all things are created is simply an axiom; the starting point for demonstrating creationism. As much as the people in this thread would like to believe it, we are not debating whether or not all things are created rather, we are debating whether or not there is evidence for creationism. That all things are created is basic reality. For some reason that is a hard truth to grasp for a small minority of people on this planet.
Rather than patronize me, perhaps you'd care to explain what scientifically viable and objectively verifiable means we have for demonstrating that everything in existence was specifically created?
Pick any thing in the known universe you would like and I will demonstrate "scientifically" how it was created into existence. Pick any thing you like, it does not matter. Maybe while I am doing that you could explain to me how a thing could come into existence without being created? I would be curious to know.