Cry of the Sheeple

[Meow Mix]

Some days I want to throw my hands in the air and say fine, let the red states secede... let's see which philosophy pans out. I'd wager said red states would be in a two-class wage-slave society before the end of the next decade -- just like in Mexico, where the elite build fences to keep the unwashed masses away from their property.

Thankfully though I'm not really a pessimist and that sentiment quickly passes.

 

[Reverend Rick]

You can't ignore the vast amount of blue states either. You can just as easily say that, as Jon Stewart put it, "most of the confederacy" is trying to tell the rest of the country how to live. And the electoral map is pretty much how it always is. Many states remaining unchanged, many being very predictable, and only a handful of them decide who wins. We live in a highly polarized and partisan nation. Either everyone will get over their differences or the nation will collapse. Either one is better than a stagnant government with a large chunk of individuals insisting it is their way or the highway. Some so boisterous as to claim that compromise is the Democrats yielding to Republican wishes.

Look at the regions though. Blue along each coastline and ten times as much area between the two coastlines. I wish someone would figure it out to the percentage of square miles or something similar like number of cities.

 

[somethingNiftyhere]

Check out Christianexodus(dot) org. It's a group of Christians that propose the northern part of South Carolina secede from the "empire" of the U.S.

Short sighted but quite profitable I imagine, among those who are intolerant of anything less than a theocratic dictatorship ruling all of America.

 

[Sunstone]

Some days I want to throw my hands in the air and say fine, let the red states secede... let's see which philosophy pans out. I'd wager said red states would be in a two-class wage-slave society before the end of the next decade -- just like in Mexico, where the elite build fences to keep the unwashed masses away from their property.

Thankfully though I'm not really a pessimist and that sentiment quickly passes.

I'm a wee bit more radical than you. I hope for the day the South secedes again. Peacefully and with my relieved blessings.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Look at the regions though. Blue along each coastline and ten times as much area between the two coastlines. I wish someone would figure it out to the percentage of square miles or something similar like number of cities.

That's completely irrelevant though. It would take numerous rural cities to amount to the population or geographic size of larger cities like L.A. or New York. And states like California, Texas, and New York, which have a higher population, have more weight in the electoral college.

Some days I want to throw my hands in the air and say fine, let the red states secede... let's see which philosophy pans out.

I would love to see that happen. I'm sure within a decade the blue states would have a new Renascence, active culture exchanges, and artisan communities would flourish and thrive. Small business would be the backbone of the economy, and a good education would be a right, not a privilege. Red states I could see having extreme wealth disparity, being plagued with violence, corporate control, and Evangelic Christian morality becoming the primary source of legislation.

 

[Reverend Rick]

I'm a wee bit more radical than you. I hope for the day the South secedes again. Peacefully and with my relieved blessings.

Ding ding ding

We agree again. Can I be their King?

 

[Meow Mix]

Ding ding ding

We agree again. Can I be their King?

I support it

And I honestly would hope for prosperity for both halves. Maybe it's nigh time the different fiscal and social philospophies were put to the test in a pure environment?

 

[somethingNiftyhere]

Originally Posted by Sunstone
I'm a wee bit more radical than you. I hope for the day the South secedes again. Peacefully and with my relieved blessings.

Not forgetting the immoral impetus that caused that secession to occur and the enormous lack of success it afforded those southern States afterward, where there was nothing peaceful or blessed about it.

 

[Alceste]

Some days I want to throw my hands in the air and say fine, let the red states secede... let's see which philosophy pans out. I'd wager said red states would be in a two-class wage-slave society before the end of the next decade -- just like in Mexico, where the elite build fences to keep the unwashed masses away from their property.

Thankfully though I'm not really a pessimist and that sentiment quickly passes.

Yeah, it worked out great for Pakistan and India.

 

[Twig pentagram]

The results of the 2012 election can be summed up in one sentence which I call the "Cry of the Sheeple":

"I ask not what I can do for my country, I ask what my countries government can do for me?!"

Xeper.
/Adramelek\
The Eternal Libertarian

Are you seriously saying that voting for Obama changes people into
sheeple? I don't see how that would turn someone into leviathan
food.

 

[somethingNiftyhere]

Are you seriously saying that voting for Obama changes people into
sheeple? I don't see how that would turn someone into leviathan
food.

"I voted for Obama and all I got for it was this jump rope made by a Romney owned company in China!"

What?!:run:
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[Dirty Penguin]

This is too funny.....:sad4:

 

[Twilight Hue]

The results of the 2012 election can be summed up in one sentence which I call the "Cry of the Sheeple":

"I ask not what I can do for my country, I ask what my countries government can do for me?!"

Xeper.
/Adramelek\
The Eternal Libertarian

I suspect we will eventually end up like Greece.

 

[somethingNiftyhere]

Have you ever watched Victoria Jackson's comedy routine?
Her saying America died after this election isn't really credible, when her career died prior to Bush43.

She's an idiot who made it to the stage and now to a keyboard and Twitter.

God wasn't on the ballot. And the kind of God Romney would have brought to his politics is the Satan free people would have prayed to be free from for the whole 4 years that smiling lying trickle down politician who panders to the 1%, would have had sitting right beside him in the oval office.

"Trickle down economics. The propaganda phrasing that disguises the rich pis&ing on the poor while asking them to work harder in the rain without an umbrella." Anonymous

 

[Mister_T]

Have you ever watched Victoria Jackson's comedy routine?

If it's anything like her political commentary, I think I'd rather watch someone conduct a prostate exam.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

The results of the 2012 election can be summed up in one sentence which I call the "Cry of the Sheeple":

"I ask not what I can do for my country, I ask what my countries government can do for me?!"

Xeper.
/Adramelek\
The Eternal Libertarian

Better version that is fair for both government and people: "What can I do for me?"

 

[Mister_T]

I see the silliness of it all but if Romney had won, we would be hearing the same thing just from different people.

There will be a backlash however. This country is deeply divided and if you look at the electoral map, it would seem that the urban folks want to tell the rest of the country how to live. Even though Romney lost, just look at the vast expanse of the red states who want none of this.

No doubt Liberals would be saying silly things themselves, not sure it would be on par with what I'm seeing today, but it would be there.

Personally, if Romney won, I would tell everyone the same thing I told them today which was everything will be fine, calm down and have a beer. Even though a lot the crowd he panders to can be out off their rocks a lot of time, looking at Romney's history as a politician, he's not much different than Obama and I don't think he would ultimately let any lunatic fringe dictate his policy.

What people say they're going to do to get votes and what they actually end up doing when they get into the White House are two completely different things.

 

[Reverend Rick]

I will tell you what you never see, someone suggesting we all pay a little more taxes. It's always someone who wants the other guy to get his check cut or program cut or some other person to start paying more taxes.

You hear the politicians say this all the time, "I will not affect your tax bill, I will stick it to the other guy."

Then there is the liberal screaming, I can't afford to pay more taxes, how will I pay to see the latest movie or buy that video game I want? The rich guy can afford it, stick it to him.

Which is no better than saying, lets give the rich man the tax break and cut the poor person's program.

The bottom line is, screw the other guy not me.

If we are ever going to solve this thing it will take a progressive shared sacrifice on every one's part. That idea will be received like a turd in a punch bowl.

 

[Alceste]

I will tell you what you never see, someone suggesting we all pay a little more taxes. It's always someone who wants the other guy to get his check cut or program cut or some other person to start paying more taxes.

You hear the politicians say this all the time, "I will not affect your tax bill, I will stick it to the other guy."

Then there is the liberal screaming, I can't afford to pay more taxes, how will I pay to see the latest movie or buy that video game I want? The rich guy can afford it, stick it to him.

Which is no better than saying, lets give the rich man the tax break and cut the poor person's program.

The bottom line is, screw the other guy not me.

If we are ever going to solve this thing it will take a progressive shared sacrifice on every one's part. That idea will be received like a turd in a punch bowl.

We only see what we look for.

please raise my taxes - Google Search

 

[dust1n]

I will tell you what you never see, someone suggesting we all pay a little more taxes. It's always someone who wants the other guy to get his check cut or program cut or some other person to start paying more taxes.

You hear the politicians say this all the time, "I will not affect your tax bill, I will stick it to the other guy."

Then there is the liberal screaming, I can't afford to pay more taxes, how will I pay to see the latest movie or buy that video game I want? The rich guy can afford it, stick it to him.

Which is no better than saying, lets give the rich man the tax break and cut the poor person's program.

The bottom line is, screw the other guy not me.

If we are ever going to solve this thing it will take a progressive shared sacrifice on every one's part. That idea will be received like a turd in a punch bowl.

I haven't went to a movie theater since I was 16, and I sold all my video game consoles when I was 17. I barely make any money at all, and I'm willing to pay more taxes. But there is no reason tax cuts for the rich shouldn't be roll back. There is no reason that corporations like BoA or Exxon, etc. should be paying no taxes at all. There is no reason at all that we spent more than a trillion dollars on fighting a war that literally yielded nothing. My bills amount to 750 bucks a month, and I don't have college debt (though I'm about to start accumulating it), which leaves me with 100 bucks or less to pay for food and gas. And I really don't have any entertainment costs. In fact (if it were legal), my consumption could be limited to the two things mentioned above, pot, some alcohol, fifteen bucks to see bands play (a week, of course), a couple of books a week from the bookstore, and just have my computer on hand, and I could live for years on end completely content with what I have. Granted, I'd have no money for any sort of emergency. But if I made a measly 2000 bucks a month, I could put away 500 dollars a month and still have money left over. Not entirely sustainable forever, but it would holds me off being young, at least until I finished my accounting degree, and I have never taken money from the government, nor has my family, in any form of hand-out ever, except I finally got 700 dollars for my last two semesters of school, which didn't even cover a third of the costs. I'm still willing to pay more taxes because I don't think social programs should be cut, though I'd be happy if they were made more efficient. The only people I've ever heard complaining about taxes are conservatives. And it's never enough.