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CSI: What It Means To Be One

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
I have been a CSI with my police department for over 7 years, with a total of almost 13 years on the force. Where I work, you get so much experience just because of the call volume and high crime rate. A few years in my city is a lifetime career elsewhere. This is what it means to do my job:

1. Having a degree in Criminology, with continued education courses several times per year. Federal agencies are great at sponsoring those courses, as are non-profits that use retired specialists.

2. Being a professional photographer under every weather and lighting condition possible, to include having to go up a fire truck ladder (up to 100 feet high) in order to get an overhead picture(s) of a scene. This is not fun in a high wind environment.

3. Getting down on your hands and knees in order to look for evidence in the grass, under furniture, under car seats, etc. or having to climb and maneuver to look for evidence in attics, on rooftops, in crawl spaces, etc. Spiderwebs galore! No time for claustrophobia either.

4. Having to stand over decomposing corpses with maggots coming out of every orifice and taking up close pictures. The smell alone makes many people puke and run out of the area. Suck it up because it has to get done.

5. Handling biohazardous material such as bloody clothes, dirty drug paraphernalia (don't stick yourself), forensic chemical agents and reagents, etc. Don't cut corners and ignore masks, gloves, scba, etc. if called for.

6. Being biohazard trained and certified to include wearing all levels of hazmat suits. Level A means you are zipped up inside a completely closed suit with your own breathing apparatus. If your oxygen tank is not properly filled/registering, you can run out of air with no avenue of escape. Not to mention dehydration or heat exhaustion/stroke.

7. Being familiar with and utilizing a variety of physical sciences as you process evidence. Chemistry, biology, physics, etc.

8. Being a medical expert when it comes to anatomy and the effects of different types of wounds such as gunshot, stabbing, slashing, blunt force trauma, etc. These questions will usually be diverted to a doctor such as a forensic pathologist, but you will get asked about them.

9. Being a firearms expert to include weapon nomenclature and trajectory analysis.

10. Being able to write coherent, detailed, and chronological reports that covers every aspect of your investigation, and then being able to explain yourself in court based off what you wrote/did (often years earlier...court cases take time to come around). Expect to be on the stand for hours and/or days.

The list goes on and on...
 
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Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
Doing things solely "because you can" can lead to some seriously dangerous territory.

I'd suggest that you exercise caution if your disposition involves such impulsiveness.

Yes, because this internet chat forum is such a serious place that leads to impulsive behavior and bouts of hysteria. :rolleyes:

Out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to post in this thread? ;)
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I could only dream of being what you are, its one of the most interesting jobs I could think of, and I know its not like the TV shows would have us believe lol.:)
 

Timothy Bryce

Active Member
Yes, because this internet chat forum is such a serious place that leads to impulsive behavior and bouts of hysteria. :rolleyes:

Out of curiosity, why did you feel the need to post in this thread? ;)

Because it was obvious to me that it was nothing more than an egotistical gloat.
 

Timothy Bryce

Active Member
I am gloating that I have to take pictures of grotesque dead people and process their clothing for evidence? Uhm...ok. :shrug:

Well then, you might be surprised about what types of things people like to brag about.

Your OP just seemed to come out of nowhere and I merely asked what your intention for writing it was.

Your passive aggressive response to my question only further indicated to me that it was something along the lines of: "hey guys I'm totally a crime scene investigator - just like on CSI - you know, like on TV and stuff!"

If I was wrong to make that presumption, I invite you to explain what your intention for doing so actually was.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Ew gross. I want to save damsels, parachute and sign autographs. What do I need for that position?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Because it was obvious to me that it was nothing more than an egotistical gloat.
What's to gloat about?
It's a profession which few people do, so it's interesting to hear about it.
If he'd told us about his role as an international superspy disguised as a billionaire jet setting playboy....that would be bragging.
("Gloating" is simply the wrong word in any sense.)

If he really wanted to impress the girls, he'd have claimed to be an
engineer, which is the most vaunted & envied profession on the planet.
Ordinary people look up to us as demi-gods.
 

Papoon

Active Member
I am a single male musician.
Every day I have to confront the horrors of my domestic disorganisation.
Cockroaches crawling across the kitchen bench; piles of ash and cigarette butts everywhere; kitchen utensils and books and all sorts of random paraphernalia amongst the bedding and laundry - and that's if I can find the bed or the laundry; the constant disorientation of waking up in different places in my house, because I had to organise emergency sleeping arrangements when my bed goes missing under cubic meters of random effluvia..
It's not easy.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
I find the OP 1) interesting and 2) valuable. Interesting because it's such a different sort of a job and very few people can, or do, do it. Valuable because when those CSI shows came on, all of the sudden we had all kinds of students asking for a degree to become a CSI...hundreds of students over several years...there are like 7 full-time CSIs in Indiana; city of Indianapolis, population 900,000+ has ONE. And from what I've heard, the job is not at all like how it's portrayed on TV
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I find the OP 1) interesting and 2) valuable. Interesting because it's such a different sort of a job and very few people can, or do, do it. Valuable because when those CSI shows came on, all of the sudden we had all kinds of students asking for a degree to become a CSI...hundreds of students over several years...there are like 7 full-time CSIs in Indiana; city of Indianapolis, population 900,000+ has ONE. And from what I've heard, the job is not at all like how it's portrayed on TV
It's also remarkable how similar being a CSI is to being a landlord at times.
Toxic materials.....maggots....photography.....report writing.....fending off groupies......
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Well then, you might be surprised about what types of things people like to brag about.

Your OP just seemed to come out of nowhere and I merely asked what your intention for writing it was.

Your passive aggressive response to my question only further indicated to me that it was something along the lines of: "hey guys I'm totally a crime scene investigator - just like on CSI - you know, like on TV and stuff!"

If I was wrong to make that presumption, I invite you to explain what your intention for doing so actually was.
Wowzers. Are you one of them who has me on ignore because wowie, I haven't got one like that from you yet? I am feeling a little:( bit left out.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I have been a CSI with my police department for over 7 years, with a total of almost 13 years on the force. Where I work, you get so much experience just because of the call volume and high crime rate. A few years in my city is a lifetime career elsewhere. This is what it means to do my job:

1. Having a degree in Criminology, with continued education courses several times per year. Federal agencies are great at sponsoring those courses, as are non-profits that use retired specialists.

2. Being a professional photographer under every weather and lighting condition possible, to include having to go up a fire truck ladder (up to 100 feet high) in order to get an overhead picture(s) of a scene. This is not fun in a high wind environment.

3. Getting down on your hands and knees in order to look for evidence in the grass, under furniture, under car seats, etc. or having to climb and maneuver to look for evidence in attics, on rooftops, in crawl spaces, etc. Spiderwebs galore! No time for claustrophobia either.

4. Having to stand over decomposing corpses with maggots coming out of every orifice and taking up close pictures. The smell alone makes many people puke and run out of the area. Suck it up because it has to get done.

5. Handling biohazardous material such as bloody clothes, dirty drug paraphernalia (don't stick yourself), forensic chemical agents and reagents, etc. Don't cut corners and ignore masks, gloves, scba, etc. if called for.

6. Being biohazard trained and certified to include wearing all levels of hazmat suits. Level A means you are zipped up inside a completely closed suit with your own breathing apparatus. If your oxygen tank is not properly filled/registering, you can run out of air with no avenue of escape. Not to mention dehydration or heat exhaustion/stroke.

7. Being familiar with and utilizing a variety of physical sciences as you process evidence. Chemistry, biology, physics, etc.

8. Being a medical expert when it comes to anatomy and the effects of different types of wounds such as gunshot, stabbing, slashing, blunt force trauma, etc. These questions will usually be diverted to a doctor such as a forensic pathologist, but you will get asked about them.

9. Being a firearms expert to include weapon nomenclature and trajectory analysis.

10. Being able to write coherent, detailed, and chronological reports that covers every aspect of your investigation, and then being able to explain yourself in court based off what you wrote/did (often years earlier...court cases take time to come around). Expect to be on the stand for hours and/or days.

The list goes on and on...
A question for you....
When you're off the clock, to you stalk criminals, anesthetize them, wrap them in plastic,
execute them, save their blood on a glass slide, & then dump them in the ocean?
I once watched a documentary about a guy who did this.
 
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savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I have a question and when I think of what it is, I am going to ask it, unless, of course, I can never remember it.

Which reminds of another comment I have.

Extensive note taking has to be required to be able to testify right (I would hate that).
 
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