Curious? J.W.'s not permitted to post here?

[savagewind]

If the things posted had not been said a hundred times already,

Only 100?

it may be excusable.

Matthew 18:22
Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
Sadly, JW seem to have changed the math here.
New World Translation 22 Jesus said to him: “I say to you, not up to seven times, but up to 77 times.+
Colossians 3:13

But the rant is sadly never over.

I am sad some times that you call disagreeing with JW dogma, evil against Jehovah's Witnesses personally. You always seem to forget what is written about setting things straight between Jehovah and God's people. Again and again and again prophets came to warn the people. I am warning you, but you treat me like the Pharisees treated Jesus.

No obsession is healthy for the mind

But, I suppose Jehovah's Witnesses are exempt from that truth?

and some people need to move on instead of being stuck in a fog of bad feelings and continual self justification.

I actually feel very happy Jehovah has trusted me with the truth. Sometimes I think I might be feeling TOO happy about the fact that I am alone doing this. Isaiah 1:18

Feeding an obsession never allows the one to overcome it.

Is this wisdom according to @Deeje or is it wisdom according to the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses? I suppose someone might think I am insulting the governing body personally by not using capital letters. Is that it Deeje?
I have told you more than once that I do not recall ever attacking JWs or their gb personally. I have asked for just one example, which you have so far refused me. I know that going through 24,000 posts to find one should not be expected of anyone, but I think you might go through YOUR comments that have been linked to my comments to find one. OK?

May I ask if English is your first language?

You just did. LOL

I am somewhat confused by your phrasing sometimes.

No comment

 

[Shadow Wolf]

"Predatorial" happens when they are hungry...."territorial" happens when they see an intruder.

Exactly. And lions just do not normally or regularly attack humans for food. It's like a great white shark attacking a human for food, as it's actually very rare as they aren't even people-eaters, except for perhaps when they make a mistake (such as attack a surfer), as has been recently suggested when old age or injury prevents them from going after their normal prey. But, despite the fact this is very rare, many people are still afraid of it.

 

[Revoltingest]

Exactly. And lions just do not normally or regularly attack humans for food. It's like a great white shark attacking a human for food, as it's actually very rare as they aren't even people-eaters, except for perhaps when they make a mistake (such as attack a surfer), as has been recently suggested when old age or injury prevents them from going after their normal prey. But, despite the fact this is very rare, many people are still afraid of it.

Things got really warped when "Jaws" came out.
(I found the movie mostly dull.)

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Things got really warped when "Jaws" came out.
(I found the movie mostly dull.)

I wasn't yet around when the movie came out, but I've heard it launched a mass fear of swimming in the oceans that just did not exist prior to the movie.

 

[Skwim]

Hi Folks...

lol....let me assure you all first - according to Christ directly - there is no such individual as this "satan" character - there is no "source of evil" that is somehow opposed to my Father - IMPOSSIBLE - as all of Creation flows FROM my Fathers Mind - evil He said comes FROM THE WORLD OF MAN ALONE - their ignorance and Self deciept

As to "jehovahs witnesses" - yes indeed - they ARE directly prohibited form such internet forums a s this - indeed, they are directly prohibited form many many NORMAL activities - some even quite bizarre prohibitions placed upon them....I take this from EX jehovahs witneses who have left and now speak FREELY and openly giving us their truth and version directly from the inside...

http://thejehovahswitnesses.org/things-jehovahs-witnesses-cant-do.php

It wont let me copy and paste - and it s too long to type it all out lol - but check out especially Rule 31 - clearly states such things as public discussion of faith with none believers is PROHIBITED.... Those who post here then are actually going against their faith as decreed by their "elders" - and those others may well have left here first rather than being "found out" and thereby risk being kicked out and shunned totally for their perceived misdeeds....

As I say some of the rules are just - ridiculous - so ridiculous - that out of a world wide population now approaching 7 BILLION - they insist that just a handful - 144000 is it ? - will be able to follow all these rules perfectly - and only these few Souls are the "true chosen elect"... The rest of us - totally screwed they say - and that is why they will not associaite or have intimate dealings with and outright forbid anything that is none JW...

Yeah, blocking the copy function is weird. In any case here are the first 71(actually the first 86. I combined 72- 86 with 71).

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One word: OUCH! What a sad way to live.

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[savagewind]

Seven times seventy seven is the right way to read it, says Jesus. Christ, you know. 539 times, which basically means always. OK?

 

[Parsimony]

For those JWs who stayed, what is the reason for it? Why did some stay and others go? Are there different interpretations of the Watchtower's ruling? Since most of them are gone, I guess I won't get much chance to post a question to them in their DIR like I wanted to (those who stayed probably won't answer it anyway).

 

[Luciferi Baphomet]

JWs were commanded by their overlords not to tread in places such as RF, which is why our JW members all vanished around the same time.

Interesting actually.

 

[Deeje]

~;> the question is understandable
written in english
so no need to ask further question
unless you answer our question first rightfully according unto your faith

Maybe it has to do with you sounding like an old KJV.....? Do you use the word "unto" in your everyday speech?
It is your phrasing I find hard to understand....sorry.

 

[Deeje]

For those JWs who stayed, what is the reason for it? Why did some stay and others go? Are there different interpretations of the Watchtower's ruling? Since most of them are gone, I guess I won't get much chance to post a question to them in their DIR like I wanted to (those who stayed probably won't answer it anyway).

I will return later this afternoon and answer your question....I am going to attend my Christian meeting now.....so later....

 

[ukok102nak]

~;> such a lame excuses
to answer
the question
who created your congregation

perhaps your faith is to your congregation only
and not to god
coz you really only fooling yourself here
and not everyone


:ty:


godbless
unto all always

Maybe it has to do with you sounding like an old KJV.....? Do you use the word "unto" in your everyday speech?
It is your phrasing I find hard to understand....sorry.

 

[Deeje]

~;> such a lame excuses
to answer
the question
who created your congregation

perhaps your faith is to your congregation only
and not to god
coz you really only fooling yourself here
and not everyone


:ty:


godbless
unto all always

LOL...perhaps you need to change your sign off here......you don't insult people and then thank them and then give them God's blessing....that is very confusing.

But since you asked this question..."who created your congregation" I will give you a two word answer.....Jesus Christ.

Who created yours?

BTW, I wasn't trying to insult you by saying that I didn't understand your English....I was really trying to make some sense out of what you say.
If English is not your first language, then that would explain the problem. Not criticizing....just trying to understand. OK?

 

[Deeje]

One word: OUCH! What a sad way to live.

And you know for a fact that all of that is true and not horribly twisted all out of shape by those who left us and now want to beat up their former family members?
Ever been on the other end of an "ex's" testimony? Would you be happy to have an "ex" tell other people about you and then have them form an opinion of you?

Thank heaven that we have judges in our courtrooms who have to hear both sides of an issue and who want to hear the whole truth, not tid-bits taken out of context.

Haters gonna hate.....you are free to join them.

 

[Parsimony]

And you know for a fact that all of that is true and not horribly twisted all out of shape by those who left us and now want to beat up their former family members?

Interesting. I'll admit that I don't know all that much about the Jehovah's Witnesses, so if you can provide some clarifications about what that list got wrong, I'd like to read it.

 

[Deeje]

For those JWs who stayed, what is the reason for it? Why did some stay and others go? Are there different interpretations of the Watchtower's ruling?

Sometimes it is easier for our brothers to give a general ruling for the well-being of all, than make rulings on an individual basis in issues like this. It is time consuming and complicated....and quite frankly, they have more important things to take care of.

Some of us are stronger in our faith than others, so we feel that we can give a good witness on forums such as this, but others might be wounded by the unkind nature of many who are only too happy to pass on second-hand sob stories about those "horrible" JW's and the lives they have supposedly wrecked!
Anyone who knows JW's personally is aware that we do not profess to be perfect, nor do we have a label that automatically means that we are saved. We, as an international brotherhood have a unity of belief and purpose that no other body of believers can even get close to. We value that and expect that our detractors will try any and all methods to make us appear to be evil.....its not surprising..we even expect it. (John 15:18-21)

Interesting. I'll admit that I don't know all that much about the Jehovah's Witnesses, so if you can provide some clarifications about what that list got wrong, I'd like to read it.

We are not going to refute a ridiculous list like the one posted, but if you'd like to know anything specifically, I would be happy to clarify it for you.

 

[Parsimony]

Sometimes it is easier for our brothers to give a general ruling for the well-being of all, than make rulings on an individual basis in issues like this. It is time consuming and complicated....and quite frankly, they have more important things to take care of.

Some of us are stronger in our faith than others, so we feel that we can give a good witness on forums such as this, but others might be wounded by the unkind nature of many who are only too happy to pass on second-hand sob stories about those "horrible" JW's and the lives they have supposedly wrecked!
Anyone who knows JW's personally is aware that we do not profess to be perfect, nor do we have a label that automatically means that we are saved. We, as an international brotherhood have a unity of belief and purpose that no other body of believers can even get close to. We value that and expect that our detractors will try any and all methods to make us appear to be evil.....its not surprising..we even expect it. (John 15:18-21)

Alrighty. I kind of wish that the others had chosen to stay.

We are not going to refute a ridiculous list like the one posted, but if you'd like to know anything specifically, I would be happy to clarify it for you.

Okay then, what about not being allowed to study psychology, sociology or philosophy? Is that accurate or is there something more to it?

 

[ukok102nak]

~;> insulting people by let them
hear and see
the truth
thats really tickles a lot

from our observation
your the only one here who is insulting yourself
especially
your insulting your own faith also that is
for you never come unto that understanding
where no language could utter the hidden
intent of human thoughts
inside the human heart and mind

now
within a situation
such as yours
who hide its true intention
by diverting unto a lame excuses by using tactics such as language discrimination
when you cant even distinguished
when someone is telling the truth even in your own language
b'coz of that faith of yours unto the congregation of man
and
not to god
so dont mislead the people here
by using your own term here in the forum such as
discriminating speeches
especially again
that
a system of biblical interpretation taught by man
was been input unto your thoughts
which is deceitful
as you were really trying to make some sense out of what you say.

and also
for further clarification
when did jesus christ said
that the name of god is jehovah
as you clamed that jesus christ is the one who
created your congregation
atleast show some proof that it is written in the scripture

by the way
is it
Jehovah's Witnesses had its origins in the Bible Student movement, which developed in the United States in the 1870s among followers of Christian Restorationist minister Charles Taze Russell.

for the las time
as you clamed that jesus christ is the one
who created your congregation
then its only fair
to let the scripture speaks for itself
and not
a system of biblical interpretation taught by man

we wasn't trying to insult you by saying that we didn't understand your English....we were really trying to make some sense out of what you say.
meaning even if English is your first language, then that would explain that it is not the problem
but that congregation of yours who made you all as a robots

Not criticizing....just trying to be understandable
and
adapting unto a certain situation such as this
dillema unto your faith within the cobgregation of man
if we may say so


:ty:



godbless
unto all always

LOL...perhaps you need to change your sign off here......you don't insult people and then thank them and then give them God's blessing....that is very confusing.

But since you asked this question..."who created your congregation" I will give you a two word answer.....Jesus Christ.

Who created yours?

BTW, I wasn't trying to insult you by saying that I didn't understand your English....I was really trying to make some sense out of what you say.
If English is not your first language, then that would explain the problem. Not criticizing....just trying to understand. OK?

 

[McBell]

I find it interesting to contemplate just how aggravating it must be for those JW's who said they are not allowed to post on the internet to not be able to post anything to the JW's that post on the internet.....

 

[Deeje]

~;> insulting people by let them
hear and see
the truth
thats really tickles a lot

from our observation
your the only one here who is insulting yourself
especially
your insulting your own faith also that is
for you never come unto that understanding
where no language could utter the hidden
intent inside of human thoughts
such as yours
who hide its true intention
by diverting unto a lame excuses by using tactics such as language discrimination
when you cant even distinguished
when someone is telling the truth even in your own language
b'coz of that faith of yours unto the congregation of man
and
not to god
so dont mislead the people here
by using your own term here in the forum such as
discriminating speeches
especially again
that
a system of biblical interpretation taught by man
was been input unto your thoughts
which is deceitful
as you were really trying to make some sense out of what you say.

I'm sorry...what?????

Who is "our" in this observation? (whatever the observation is?)

and also
for further clarification
when did jesus christ said
that the name of god is jehovah
as you clamed that jesus christ is the one who
created your congregation
atleast show some proof that it is written in the scripture

I think I understand this bit......

Matthew 22:34-40: NWT
"After the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they came together in one group. 35 And one of them, versed in the Law, tested him by asking: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37 He said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’ 38 This is the greatest and first commandment. 39 The second, like it, is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 On these two commandments the whole Law hangs, and the Prophets.”

Jesus was quoting Deuteronomy 6:5 which according to the ASV reads...."and thou shalt love Jehovah thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might."
Jesus read Hebrew scripture with the tetragrammaton in the text. He said he had come to make his Father's name known. (John 17:26)

He also answered when tempted by the devil, quoting the OT (Deuteronomy) three times. In each case the Hebrew scriptures contained the divine name, translated into English as "Jehovah". If you have an issue with the name "Jehovah", might I remind you that you use the name "Jesus" (without capital letters which is most insulting.) This is also the English translation of his Hebrew name, Yeshua. There are no "J" names in Hebrew at all...every one of them in English versions is a translation...would you like to re-write the entire Bible so as to eliminate all the "J" names, most of which incorporate Jehovah's name into them?

so let the scripture speaks for itself
and not
a system of biblical interpretation taught by man

So we should accept only one interpreted by you? Are you not a man?

 

[Deeje]

I find it interesting to contemplate just how aggravating it must be for those JW's who said they are not allowed to post on the internet to not be able to post anything to the JW's that post on the internet.....

Crikey! Don't you start......bored again today are we Mestemia?
We can put our case to the elders individually and show them what we are doing here. They are looking out for the weaker ones whose hide is not as thick as yours or mine.

I for one appreciate that.