Curious question to the unvaccinated

[Unveiled Artist]

I'm curious of your views about your decision to not vaccinate and your opinions on being told you will spread the virus without vaccination.

How do you rate your risk of catching COVID insofar the risk isn't high enough (important or so have you) to vaccinate? (Do you believe you can spread the virus without you knowing it?)

That, and how does your lifestyle, situation, and morals play a part in not vaccinating (for example, some people rarely leave their home and are not around people close enough to possibly catch and spread COVID)... do you have similar lifestyle in those respects?

Quasi-devil's advocate.

 

[an anarchist]

I'm curious of your views about your decision to not vaccinate and your opinions on being told you will spread the virus without vaccination.

How do you rate your risk of catching COVID insofar the risk isn't high enough (important or so have you) to vaccinate? (Do you believe you can spread the virus without you knowing it?)

That, and how does your lifestyle, situation, and morals play a part in not vaccinating (for example, some people rarely leave their home and are not around people close enough to possibly catch and spread COVID)... do you have similar lifestyle in those respects?

Quasi-devil's advocate.

I decided I was not going to get vaccinated in December 2019/January 2020. Independent news sources were already warning of the upcoming vaccine mandates.
Zero trust policy in the government. Simple as that. I don’t trust the government at all and millions are like minded.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I was told the microchips that came with the vaccines used Windows instead of Linux, so I decided to wait for a Linux version. If I'm going to be microchipped, I want to at least have some memory left instead of having Windows take it all up.

 

[Debater Slayer]

In seriousness, I'm not vaccinated yet only because I have a long waiting list ahead of me. In my country, you have to sign up and then receive a unique ID on your phone, with which you can then get vaccinated. Since I have no pre-existing conditions, am in my twenties, and don't work in health care, I basically fall within the category that has the very lowest priority for vaccination.

And this is for a Chinese jab, which, while still given emergency approval by the WHO, isn't as effective as mRNA ones. It all makes me hurt a little inside when I see that so many people have quick, free access to mRNA vaccines and still refuse them. Maybe I should offer to get an mRNA jab on their behalf at some point.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

In seriousness, I'm not vaccinated yet only because I have a long waiting list ahead of me. In my country, you have to sign up and then receive a unique ID on your phone, with which you can then get vaccinated. Since I have no pre-existing conditions, am in my twenties, and don't work in health care, I basically fall within the category that has the very lowest priority for vaccination.

And this is for a Chinese jab, which, while still given emergency approval by the WHO, isn't as effective as mRNA ones. It all makes me hurt a little inside when I see that so many people have quick, free access to mRNA vaccines and still refuse them. Maybe I should offer to get an mRNA jab on their behalf at some point.

Ha. Here we have vaccination stations walking distance every which way. All free and one couple walked in five minutes and was out. Maybe the US should (if they dont) help others with vaccination availability. I would be in a low priority but I have a pre-existing condition. It's neurological so most likely there would be no effect. If I did take it I'd talk to my doctor since he knows me better than the experts. But, in general though, I don't know how unvaccinated people feel when they are told they will spread the virus in every nook and cranny.

Even calling it "The pandemic of the unvaccinated"

It's sad. It's early morning here but I look forward to the replies.

 

[oldbadger]

I decided I was not going to get vaccinated in December 2019/January 2020. Independent news sources were already warning of the upcoming vaccine mandates.
Zero trust policy in the government. Simple as that. I don’t trust the government at all and millions are like minded.

Where I live we no longer trust people who won't get vaccinated and that is easy to show.
Many of our companies, travel services, offices, clubs, social centres etc will not receive people who are unvaccinated.

And a very high % of Covid victims are unvaccinated.

 

[Shakeel]

If I were to make an excuse I'd say, the chances of me getting the virus is very low because of my lifestyle. I come into contact with very few people very rarely and those who I know are vaccinated themselves. The situation here isn't anywhere nearly as bad as in, for example, USA. That's all true.

But I don't know if I'd take the vaccine even if my lifestyle was different. Vaccines have side effects that no one ever knows enough about until a certain amount of people suffer from them - sometimes for the rest of their lives.

 

[Deeje]

And a very high % of Covid victims are unvaccinated.

I'm not sure why they need to be?.....a corona virus can only be dealt with by our immune system. Once we have the necessary antibodies, we will recover and our immune system will not let us get a serious dose of that virus again because the antibodies in our bloodstream are there for life and should take care of it pretty quickly.
But with the seasonal flu shots....don't people need a new one every year?....every new strain of flu needs a new fluvax....right? What makes us think this flu will be any different?

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

If I were to make an excuse I'd say, the chances of me getting the virus is very low because of my lifestyle. I come into contact with very few people very rarely and those who I know are vaccinated themselves. The situation here isn't anywhere nearly as bad as in, for example, USA. That's all true.

But I don't know if I'd take the vaccine even if my lifestyle was different. Vaccines have side effects that no one ever knows enough about until a certain amount of people suffer from them - sometimes for the rest of their lives.

Many many millions of covid Vaccines have been given so far. No testing regime has ever tested more people than that.
It would be very surprising indeed if any further unknown side effects were to come to light.

It is pointless to worry about exceptionally rare unknowns, when the death toll, and so many cases of long covid, affect the non Vaccinated every day. The death toll is now made up of near to 100% from unvaccinated people.

However the choice is entirely your own. as is the risk.

 

[oldbadger]

I'm not sure why they need to be?.....a corona virus can only be dealt with by our immune system. Once we have the necessary antibodies, we will recover and our immune system will not let us get a serious dose of that virus again because the antibodies in our bloodstream are there for life and should take care of it pretty quickly.
But with the seasonal flu shots....don't people need a new one every year?....every new strain of flu needs a new fluvax....right? What makes us think this flu will be any different?

Hi, Deeje.
In the UK the people, nearly all of the mature people, are now vaccinated.
And now many younger unvaccinated people are being hospitalized or dying from Covid. So now we are moving to vaccinate all people in their teens and older.
All people over 50yrs can be fluvaxed from next month onwards....free.
All people over 50yrs can receive their Covid booster vax.... free.

There is a small number of vaccine deniers here, but we aren't listening to them.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I'm not sure why they need to be?.....a corona virus can only be dealt with by our immune system. Once we have the necessary antibodies, we will recover and our immune system will not let us get a serious dose of that virus again because the antibodies in our bloodstream are there for life and should take care of it pretty quickly.
But with the seasonal flu shots....don't people need a new one every year?....every new strain of flu needs a new fluvax....right? What makes us think this flu will be any different?

The anti bodies are not in anyone's blood stream for life, and just like with the flu jab they weaken over time. and this weakening and the Mutation of the virus means that we will need to be Revaccinated each year.
It has been already been demonstrated, that even the double vaccinated become reinfected with the D variety of Covid, if they come in to contact with it., it is less certain how infectious they then become to other people. but many cases of onward transmission have been traced.
However it has also been shown that the Double vaccinated are near 100% protected from serious illness or death.

 

[Martin]

The common theme I see with anti-vaxers is a lack of civic duty. Like they don't feel a responsibility to protect their fellow citizens.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

It is totally illogical to choose not to be vaccinated, That is, if you have no medical reasons not to.
However some people do not yet have the vaccine available to them.
It is only anti-social if you wilfully refuse to be vaccinated for no good reason.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I'm curious of your views about your decision to not vaccinate and your opinions on being told you will spread the virus without vaccination.

How do you rate your risk of catching COVID insofar the risk isn't high enough (important or so have you) to vaccinate? (Do you believe you can spread the virus without you knowing it?)

That, and how does your lifestyle, situation, and morals play a part in not vaccinating (for example, some people rarely leave their home and are not around people close enough to possibly catch and spread COVID)... do you have similar lifestyle in those respects?

Quasi-devil's advocate.

Life styles, situations and moral issues are simply excuses. for not doing what is clearly the responsible thing to do.

Of course you can pass on the infection with out knowing it. In fact that is the most common way that it is spread. In the early stages of the infection, when you are most infectious, and if you are asymptomatic, you will have no reason to suspect that you are infectious.

 

[stvdv]

I'm curious of your views about your decision to not vaccinate and your opinions on being told you will spread the virus without vaccination.

IMO:
I don't believe that fairytale, but I respect others who do believe in it (Freedom of belief)

Virus does not pick and choose unvaccinated only. It hops on anyone

Those with strong enough immune system, with or without the help of vaccination, won't get sick themselves, but still can spread

All, unvaccinated AND vaccinated will spread it, as long as the virus exists (probably longer than my body)

Note: I don't visit people at home. When I would be sick I stay in bed. My immune system is very weak, so even a virus that won't trouble others, will get me in bed.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Life styles, situations and moral issues are simply excuses. for not doing what is clearly the responsible thing to do.

Of course you can pass on the infection with out knowing it. In fact that is the most common way that it is spread. In the early stages of the infection, when you are most infectious, and if you are asymptomatic, you will have no reason to suspect that you are infectious.

The question wasn't addressed to provaxxers.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

The common theme I see with anti-vaxers is a lack of civic duty. Like they don't feel a responsibility to protect their fellow citizens.

The questions doesn't apply to provaxxers.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

@stvdv and the unvaccinated

They say if one isn't vaccinated they are selfish and don't care about saving the world.

Do you believe you are selfish (or thinking of oneself in regards to your health) at the expense other people's lives?

Does deaths play a factor(how do you view them)?

(Mind you, I'm speaking to those who choose not to vax not those who have had COVID and chose not to via natural immunity)

 

[stvdv]

@stvdv and the unvaccinated

They say if one isn't vaccinated they are selfish and don't care about saving the world.

Do you believe you are selfish (or thinking of oneself in regards to your health) at the expense other people's lives?

IMO:
NO, NO, NO,

that's the fairytale I explained in my other reply. Both, unvaccinated AND vaccinated spread viruses. Hence this is a foolish accusation made from ignorance. If you are scared, take your jab, but don't shame others for choosing a different way to stay safe

Guilt shaming is 'foolish' and 'stupid', sadly many people do this, but I don't accept their ego games

I take my own responsibility and don't expect others to change for me. Worst case scenario I lock myself up in my house, if there comes a virus that would kill me. I don't rely on others to solve my problem

Note: I don't visit people at home. When I would be sick I stay in bed. My immune system is very weak, so even a virus that won't trouble others, will get me in bed.

 

[PureX]

I take my own responsibility and don't expect others to change for me.

... "But don't call me selfish!"