Majikthise
nude
Extreme anti-theism, extreme atheism, i honestly see no difference.
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Dark side of athiest culture
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Extreme anti-theism, extreme atheism, i honestly see no difference.
Alceste
Vagabond
But it wouldn't only be atheists who get riled by various expressions of faith. Remember how the Christians got outraged that Muslims wanted to build a mosque in Manhattan after 9-11? And in certain Muslim countries converting to Christianity is a capital offense. I think being irritated by nativity scenes on public property is pretty mild in comparison.
Majikthise
nude
Everyone likes to point out that Saddam Hussein's regime was secular yet he was capable of inflicting some horrible atrocities on his neighbors and his own people.
Majikthise
nude
Hey luna!!
This is true.
Secular? He & his regime were Sunnis who treated Shiites like crap.
Perhaps it wasn't a theocracy, but I wouldn't call it "secular".
Majikthise
nude
I know that and you know that. But some liberals will beg to differ. They use it as proof that he would never have helped terrorists.
Helped'm?
He was one!
I know many people who escaped his extraordinarily violent regime's effects.
Terror was a well used too of his.
Helping terrorists would be right up his alley, although I've no knowledge of that.
Secular, in a Muslim culture, may be a relative term.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
The same could be true of a secular, in a non-Muslim culture, for a relative term.
Case in study,Russia.
Regards
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Majikthise
nude
And yet ive seen you refer to the Iraq war as a stupid or pointless war. I'm confused.
Russia seems to be secular these days, although I guess it used to be more.
Ironically enough, so is the United Kingdom, nominally a theocracy of sorts.
Then we have Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the Nordic Countries. Probably France and Germany, arguably Turkey.
Ironically enough, so is the United Kingdom, nominally a theocracy of sorts.
Then we have Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the Nordic Countries. Probably France and Germany, arguably Turkey.
It was pointless in that we spent so much money & lives to effect so little lasting good.
This result was an obvious likelihood from the outset, & became more so as time went
on. And yet, bi-partisan support from presidents & Congress continued the program.
I don't believe it's our job to go overseas & save everyone from brutal regimes. But
even if it were, I don't believe our government has the wisdom & stomach to do the job.
Consider that Hussein had WMDs (used against Iranians & Kurds) because the US gave him
the materials (& likely know how) for them. They did this to counter Iran's regime, which
was the result of the US staging a coup there, which went south later on. See where this
is going? Americastan just ***** things up over there.
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Awkward Fingers
Omphaloskeptic
Really?
I thought Russia was turning pretty hard and fast into anti blasphemy laws, religious based anti homosexual laws and the like.
However, I don't pay Russia much mind, so I could be mistaken.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
The names are meaningless if they don't have the essence that is ascribed to it.
France who I understand started it has to somewhat reverse it.
Regards
Well, that makes two of us then.
Sorry, I'm not following.
Majikthise
nude
I agree with all of that , for the most part. But there was the whole thing of him constantly thumbing his nose at weapons inspectors and tweeking suspicions that everyone severely downplayed. He obviously had WMDs, and they were used in Syria recently. Nobody ever fully connects the dots and that's because of exactly what you said. The dots will lead back here. That doesn't mean we shove our heads in the ground and ignore rhings either.
Jeez! Little off topic we are.
Majikthise
nude
I think hes pretty clear.