Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Um, no it isn't.
Is no lunch a meal? Is not collecting stamps a hobby? Is non-existence a kind of existence? Is a non-entity an entity? A: Nope.
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Dark side of athiest culture
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Um, no it isn't.
Is no lunch a meal? Is not collecting stamps a hobby? Is non-existence a kind of existence? Is a non-entity an entity? A: Nope.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Not to mention the obvious elephant in the room, namely that many of these dictator nutjobs were occultists, which is sometimes not even associated with religions. that being said, it's all about the 'front' these screwballs put on when in power, so who knows.
I take it you are kidding, and chose not to consider the actual numbers.
Occultism is just fringe religion.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
The numbers from the 20th century alone are horrific enough to prove my point, which is that the propensity for ethnic violence, genocide, the utter abuse of power, and corruption in general fall more under the category of "human nature" than "faults of religious adherents."
Majikthise
nude
Either position taken to extreme is as bad as the other. Arguing about which is worse is pointless.
No, it didn't. It started out under the Thule Society's German Workers' Party which Hitler reorganized into the NSDAP. The NSDAP was eventually going to get rid of Christianity since it is incompatible with National Socialism. Hitler was just being pragmatic in his relations with the churches. He really had no love for Christianity and even said that he would've preferred that the Germans be Muslims instead of Christians with that religion's "meekness and flabbiness". That doesn't mean he was an atheist, either. No one really knows what his personal spiritual beliefs were. Him using Christian rhetoric at times was just for propaganda purposes and so that the churches wouldn't feel threatened (that didn't work out in the end, anyway, since the Protestants formed a resistance movement and the Catholic Church issued an encyclical condemning Nazism and its treatment of Jews, Christians and condemning its euthanasia program).
Personally, I think it's stupid and annoying when both Christians and atheists use Nazism as a club in arguments, as if it really matters either way. If anything, NS makes Pagans and occultists look bad because those are the religious currents that had the biggest impact in NS and we still have a problem with neo-Nazi Germanic Pagans thanks to it.
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Associated with it by who? You? If you do indeed associate Stalin's atheism with genocide, then please provide compelling evidence that his atheism had any more to do with genocide than his mustache did.
Hardly. I'm surprised you even want to go there.
Perhaps. But how meaningful is the distinction, and how much attention are you paying to it?
Human nature is certainly a decisive factor. But atheists are just as human as theists, and much less likely to entitle themselves into violence out of strength of belief.
That would perhaps be convenient if true. But it is not true.
Majikthise
nude
My side, your side, my side, your side, my side, your side!!!!!
Stark
Stark
Majikthise
nude
What are you, high? Of course its true.
Monk Of Reason
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So what? I don't think you'll find many of those 84% Christians behind bars..
More than 75% of the people behind bars in AMERICA are Christian. .2% of prisoners are Atheists.
Again I don't think Atheists are inherently more moral except if you use the argument that any morality Religious people have is invalidated because it is a self serving fear driven course of action rather than doing it for the sake of being good. I don't normally bring that argument because I feel that religious people that do moral things do it for the same reason as Atheists and that religious people who do immoral things do it (hopefully in spite of religion rather than using it as justification) for selfish reasons as well as atheists who do immoral things.
I just find that it is inversely true for people to claim that more Atheists would be immoral than religious people.
No, it is very much untrue. Or maybe you can show me an example of how "extreme atheism" might be of comparable danger to that of unquestioned theism?
Alceste
Vagabond
I don't even know how one could "extremely" not believe in the supernatural.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Maybe it means not believing in god while base jumping.
Alceste
Vagabond
Lol. Or sawing off your hands to prevent yourself from accidentally praying.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Whichever way one expresses their extreme atheism, it's sure to involve plenty of Mountain Dew.
Majikthise
nude
Demanding that a cross be taken down in a cemetary because you can see it from the road and it offends you.
Getting ****** if someone wishes you a merry christmas (oh the nerve).
In general, doing the same stupid things religious people do when they are offended by your beliefs. Childish, nyah nyah garbage.
Getting ****** if someone wishes you a merry christmas (oh the nerve).
In general, doing the same stupid things religious people do when they are offended by your beliefs. Childish, nyah nyah garbage.
Alceste
Vagabond
Ah, you are talking about extreme anti-theism, not atheism.