Dark side of athiest culture

[TheGunShoj]

Truthful religion has always remained the same since inception it was revealed by the One-True-God; when it got corrupted at hands of the narrators/scribes/clergy, it was revealed again on a perfect man chosen by G-d from among the humans.

Regards

Right. So just like I said last time, you're simply asserting that. You're consistent, I'll give you that.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

That's a very broad brush statistic mate, maybe you could break it down into what percentage of convicts are Christians, and what percentage are atheists and nonchristians?..

A good specific example is Uganda that has a high crime rate as well as violent homicide rate but is 84% christian.

Mexico is skyrocketing in crime rates yet it is 92% Christian.

Crime in Australia is far lower with a Christian percentage of 62%.

I think it is pretty obvious that % Christian or religion in general plays very little part in how moral a society is. Rather it has to do with proper education, social services and economic status.

Which is another interesting study. People in higher income levels are far less likely to be religious than those in lower income brackets. And yet crime is inversely proportional.

Again I am not stating that religion is the cause of crime or immorality but rather it is not actually linked.

 

[Shuttlecraft]

..A good specific example is Uganda that has a high crime rate as well as violent homicide rate but is 84% christian...

So what? I don't think you'll find many of those 84% Christians behind bars..

 

[Majikthise]

So what? I don't think you'll find many of those 84% Christians behind bars..

I don't know you well but, that's just one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen. I mean , i started out trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. Wow.

 

[Shuttlecraft]

I don't know you well but, that's just one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen. I mean , i started out trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. Wow.

You'll be telling us next that nazi Germany was a Christian country..

Waddya say Spock?

"Fascinating"

 

[LuisDantas]

You'll be telling us next that nazi Germany was a Christian country..

Which it was.

 

[Shuttlecraft]

Just because a country says it's a Christian country doesn't mean it is one!
Jesus said people are like trees and that if peoples fruit is rotten, it means they're rotten too.
Adolf and nazi Germany went on a killing spree and invaded every country in sight..

 

[Bunyip]

Just because a country says it's a Christian country doesn't mean it is one!
Jesus said people are like trees and that if peoples fruit is rotten, it means they're rotten too.
Adolf and nazi Germany went on a killing spree and invaded every country in sight..

Sure, but it was still a Christian country. The NAZI party began as an offshoot of the Christian Social Movement under Karl Lueger.

 

[Majikthise]

I must apologize, i somehow confused shuttlecock with the OP. How silly of me, sincerely sorry Op.

 

[LuisDantas]

Just because a country says it's a Christian country doesn't mean it is one!

I believe that one is named the "no true scotsman" one.

Jesus said people are like trees and that if peoples fruit is rotten, it means they're rotten too.
Adolf and nazi Germany went on a killing spree and invaded every country in sight..

Interestingly enough, they were neither the first nor the last to do that.

 

[dgirl1986]

I dont understand how a statement of non belief is meant to have a culture.

 

[Willamena]

I dont understand how a statement of non belief is meant to have a culture.

Amen.

 

[Majikthise]

I don't think that there has ever been or ever will be a completely atheistic society. Maybe not even one with a significant minority in the general population. I for one find that comforting.

 

[Willamena]

I don't think that there has ever been or ever will be a completely atheistic society. Maybe not even one with a significant minority in the general population. I for one find that comforting.

I, too, appreciate multiculturalism.

 

[Kathryn]

If you are referring to the usual suspects, nazism, etc, you should note that they went awry because they set up their regimes to closely resemble religions (dogma, charismatic leader etc).

My, that's a convenient position.

 

[Kathryn]

Which sort of tiptoes around stating what IMO should be clearly stated: belief in God is dangerous in a way that atheism never was or could be.

So Stalin's atheism and the genocide associated with it was somehow less harmful than Hitler's genocide?

 

[LuisDantas]

My, that's a convenient position.

Indeed. It helps that it is also historically accurate.

So Stalin's atheism and the genocide associated with it was somehow less harmful than Hitler's genocide?

Stalin's genocide can hardly be blamed to atheism.

But even if you want to take as a premise that it should, how does it compare to whole centuries of theistic-motivated violence?

 

[Desert Snake]

I dont understand how a statement of non belief is meant to have a culture.

Non-belief is a belief.

 

[Kathryn]

In fact, with only a couple of exceptions (Stalin, Pol Pot, Kim Jung Un, etc), every awful thing in human history I can think of was done by people who believed god was watching - and cheering them along.

Well, they sure made up for lost time.

 

[LuisDantas]

Non-belief is a belief.

Only if you set up the scene in a very careful, very specific way. Arguably a meaningless one as well.

Is the lack of belief in Odin among the modern Japanese people a belief?