Dark side of athiest culture

[Looncall]

I agree - and atheism apparently doesn't hold the answers either (see various atheist regimes of the 20th century).

If you are referring to the usual suspects, nazism, etc, you should note that they went awry because they set up their regimes to closely resemble religions (dogma, charismatic leader etc).

 

[Revoltingest]

If you are referring to the usual suspects, nazism, etc, you should note that they went awry because they set up their regimes to closely resemble religions (dogma, charismatic leader etc).

Worse yet, Hitler was a believer. So we've clearly established
that both atheists & the faithful are capable of great evil.

 

[LuisDantas]

Worse yet, Hitler was a believer. So we've clearly established
that both atheists & the faithful are capable of great evil.

Which sort of tiptoes around stating what IMO should be clearly stated: belief in God is dangerous in a way that atheism never was or could be.

 

[Shuttlecraft]

Many young atheists of my acquaintance have no scruples about lying, cheating, stealing and stabbing coworkers in the back, but Christians, Muslims, Jews and Hindus all believe somebody is watching...

I can't speak for others but there's so much nastiness and nasty people in the world that I don't want to be like them, so I live my life being as un-nasty as I can, it's not because of God watching!
For example I delayed buying my TV licence this year (145 GB pounds/ 235 US dollars) and was therefore technically a criminal, but in the end my conscience got the better of me so I forked out..

 

[Brickjectivity]

The thread will be closing soon by my request. I don't want it to attract attacks on atheists and stir up anger.

 

[Shuttlecraft]

Mind you, some so-called "Christians" can be VERY nasty, they're not all squeaky-clean I can tell you!
But no sweat, they can't get under Jesus's radar..-
"Not all who call me "Lord,Lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven. Then I'll tell them plainly, I never knew you, get away from me!" (Matt 7:21-23)

 

[LuisDantas]

For example I delayed buying my TV licence this year (145 GB pounds/ 235 US dollars) and was therefore technically a criminal, but in the end my conscience got the better of me so I forked out..

A bit of clarification please. Are you talking about cable or some other sort of paid tv?

 

[Majikthise]

The thread will be closing soon by my request. I don't want it to attract attacks on atheists and stir up anger.

Oh , l dont know. All concerned seem to be having a swimmingly good time.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Oh , l dont know. All concerned seem to be having a swimmingly good time.

Except for those who said the thread was an attack upon atheists, which it was not intended to be.

 

[Shuttlecraft]

A bit of clarification please. Are you talking about cable or some other sort of paid tv?

Here in Britain, if you've got a TV, you MUST buy a TV licence by law to fund the BBCTV channel regardless of whether or not you watch BBCTV or not, or whether you're on cable or anything else!
The only way round it seems to be if you only use your TV to watch programmes from the net and not live broadcasts.
For example I delayed getting my licence this year for a couple of months, and was bombarded with threatening letters from the TV Licensing Authority, each one getting more threatening than the last, culminating in a threat to get a search warrant from the courts to search my home (with police in attendance) for an unlicensed TV!
The fine for having no licence is 1000 GB pounds/ 1620 US dollars)
They even have "detector vans" like this patrolling the streets with electronic equipment to detect TV's operating in unlicensed homes!
Big Bro is watching us..

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/engla.../consumer_tv_licences_e/about_tv_licences.htm

 

[LuisDantas]

It does not look like you had a lot of choice.

 

[Revoltingest]

Except for those who said the thread was an attack upon atheists, which it was not intended to be.

I vote to keep it open. If it's an attack, it sure is a mild one...I don't detect it.

 

[Revoltingest]

....belief in God is dangerous in a way that atheism never was or could be.

I can agree with that, but since there's danger with either view (cuz those pesky
humans are involved), I won't be trumpeting our (heathens) moral superiority.

 

[paarsurrey]

Human nature being what it is, in all its variety, there is something wrong with every culture.

Religion can't cure this. It can even enhance problems when the worst aspects of scripture hold sway over the more peaceful ones.

The truthful religion does cure it if its teachings a followed in good spirits. If people don't follow its teaching; then it is wrong to blame the truthful religion.

The truthful religion forces nobody in this world; the reward and judgement is left for the hereafter.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

I agree - and atheism apparently doesn't hold the answers either (see various atheist regimes of the 20th century).

I much appreciate your comments.

Thanks and regards

 

[paarsurrey]

One shouldn't expect Atheism to hold the answer to anything except "do you believe in any deities", of course.

It does however often choose not to get in the way of seeking practical answers to actual problems, which is something.

I don't think it is a positive attitude of the Agnostics/Atheist/Skeptics.

Regards

 

[Shuttlecraft]

On paper atheists seem to have a valid point, they say "We can't detect god with our 5 senses, therefore he probably doesn't exist"
But deists say "Just because our human senses can't detect him doesn't mean he doesn't exist", so the argument is back to square one..

Here's an experiment anybody can try-
Press a button on your TV remote and look at the light in the end. To your eyes it'll appear black and unlit.
But now do the same again, but this time look at the light through the viewfinder of your camcorder or digicam, and you'll see it flashing merrily away as in the pic below (unless your remote and cam wavelengths are different)-

The moral?- Cams can see things that our eyes can't. Likewise our senses can't detect God.
PS- maybe UFO-hunters on hilltops at night should do regular sweeps looking through their cam viewfinder to see if it detects anything that their eyes can't, just a thought..

"God goes by me but I see him not" (Job 9:10)
"God rides upon a swift cloud" (Isaiah 19:1)
"Praise to the Lord, to him who rides the ancient skies above,
whose power is in the skies" (Psalm 68:33-34)

 

[paarsurrey]

I vote to keep it open. If it's an attack, it sure is a mild one...I don't detect it.

I endorse your views.

It is often or most of the times the Atheists/Agnostic/Skeptics who sort of attack the truthful religion for its positive side; so Atheists/Agnostic/Skeptics should be free to respond for the their negative side here.
It is a good chance for them.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

On paper atheists seem to have a valid point, they say "We can't detect god with our 5 senses, therefore he probably doesn't exist"
But deists say "Just because our human senses can't detect him doesn't mean he doesn't exist", so the argument is back to square one..

Here's an experiment anybody can try-
Press a button on your TV remote and look at the light in the end. To your eyes it'll appear black and unlit.
But now do the same again, but this time look at the light through the viewfinder of your camcorder or digicam, and you'll see it flashing merrily away as in the pic below (unless your remote and cam wavelengths are different)-

The moral?- Cams can see things that our eyes can't. Likewise our senses can't detect God.
PS- maybe UFO-hunters on hilltops at night should do regular sweeps looking through their cam viewfinder to see if it detects anything that thir eyes can't, just a thought..

"God goes by me but I see him not" (Job 9:10)
"God rides upon a swift cloud" (Isaiah 19:1)
"Praise to the Lord, to him who rides the ancient skies above,
whose power is in the skies" (Psalm 68:33-34)

On paper atheists seem to have a valid point, they say "We can't detect god with our 5 senses, therefore he probably doesn't exist"

Well, I don't think it is a valid point.

Regards

 

[Looncall]

The truthful religion does cure it if its teachings a followed in good spirits. If people don't follow its teaching; then it is wrong to blame the truthful religion.

The truthful religion forces nobody in this world; the reward and judgement is left for the hereafter.

Regards

Which religion would that be? It doesn't sound like any I know of.