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Darwin's Theory of Evolution and Darwinism Has Led To The Holocaust And Genocide Of Blacks

james bond

Well-Known Member
This thread is not for the faint of heart. I can't believe that scientific racism promoted itself to being acceptable from false scientific ideas proposed by Charles Darwin to social Darwinism and Eugenics to systematic extermination by the Nazis and Planned Parenthood.

Briefly, we know that Darwin's ideas of natural selection started with his book, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life." In it, Darwin proposed that animal and plant populations evolve throughout the course of several generations by the mechanism of natural selection. He proposed that the diversity of life came about through pressures on different animal and plant species through the survival of the fittest mechanisms (term adopted from fifth printing) and common descent. Darwin meant by "fittest," those species that could best pass along their genes to future generations. In Victorian England, Darwin's society had already held the belief that some races were superior to others based on the science of the day. They also had black slaves imported to do their menial work. These slaves were not treated as people, but considered property. The science was scientific racism which a few scientists theorized that blacks and aboriginies were lesser breeds of humans or savages. In Darwin's second book, The Descent of Man, "that "the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world".

Darwin's ideas were taken by social Darwinists and promoted to eradicate the weak and unfit. Social Darwinism "states that the strongest or fittest should survive and flourish in society, while the weak and unfit should be allowed to die."

Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton, was a strong proponent "of the role of heredity in variations between individuals and groups, his championing of "nature" versus "nurture" was developed in the 1869 book 'Hereditary Genius' and then via the study of twins. In 1883, he coined the word "eugenics", and advocated strategies for improving human stock to give "the more suitable races or strains of blood" a better chance of success. His idea of "negative eugenics", designed to restrict the reproduction of less "fit" populations, would eventually feed into the policies of sterilisation followed by many from Nazi Germany to Social Democratic Sweden."

Did Charles Darwin believe in racial inequality?

"But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing."

The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

In the United States, the Civil War started fueled by the ideas of equality of humans. One of the reasons was the South wanted to keep slavery while the expansion to the western new territories by the Northerners did not want slavery (due to victory in the Mexican War 1846-48). It became the war over States Rights vs the Federal Government. It was led by President Abraham Lincoln and his Emancipation Proclamation and the 13th Amendment to eradicate slavery. The 14th Amendment after the war started civil rights for all.

However, after the war, the idea of eugenics led to the founding of Planned Parenthood by Margaret Sanger. She "believed she was ‘working in accord with the universal law of evolution’. She maintained that the brains of Australian Aborigines were only one step more evolved than chimpanzees and just under blacks, Jews and Italians. When arguing for eugenics, Sanger quoted Darwin as an authority when discussing ‘natural checks’ of the population, such as war, which helped to reduce the population. Her magazine even argued for ‘state-sponsored sterilization programs’, forcibly sterilizing the ‘less capable’. She won many academics and scientists to her cause, including Harvard University sociologists E. M. East, University of Michigan President Clarence C. Little and Johns Hopkins psychiatrist Alfred Meyer."

Margaret Sanger Darwinian eugenicist - creation.com

‘"Civil rights’ doesn’t mean anything without a right to life!" declared Hunter. He and the other marchers were protesting the disproportionately high number of abortions in the black community. The high number is no accident. Many Americans–black and white–are unaware of Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger’s Negro Project. Sanger created this program in 1939, after the organization changed its name from the American Birth Control League (ABCL) to the Birth Control Federation of America (BCFA).

The aim of the program was to restrict–many believe exterminate–the black population. Under the pretense of "better health" and "family planning," Sanger cleverly implemented her plan. What’s more shocking is Sanger’s beguilement of black America’s créme de la créme–those prominent, well educated and well-to-do–into executing her scheme. Some within the black elite saw birth control as a means to attain economic empowerment, elevate the race and garner the respect of whites.

The Negro Project has had lasting repercussions in the black community: "We have become victims of genocide by our own hands," cried Hunter at the "Say So" march."

BlackGenocide.org | The Negro Project

Thus, Darwin's ToE ideas led to the Holocaust and black genocide.
 
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Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
This thread is not for the faint of heart. I can't believe that scientific racism promoted itself to being acceptable from false scientific ideas proposed by Charles Darwin to social Darwinism and Eugenics to systematic extermination by the Nazis and Planned Parenthood.

Briefly, we know that Darwin's ideas of natural selection started with his book, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life." In it, Darwin proposed that animal and plant populations evolve throughout the course of several generations by the mechanism of natural selection. He proposed that the diversity of life came about through pressures on different animal and plant species through the survival of the fittest mechanisms (term adopted from fifth printing) and common descent. Darwin meant by "fittest," those species that could best pass along their genes to future generations. In Victorian England, Darwin's society had already held the belief that some races were superior to others based on the science of the day. They also had black slaves imported to do their menial work. These slaves were not treated as people, but considered property. The science was scientific racism which a few scientists theorized that blacks and aboriginies were lesser breeds of humans or savages. In Darwin's second book, The Descent of Man, "that "the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world".

Darwin's ideas were taken by social Darwinists and promoted to eradicate the weak and unfit. Social Darwinism "states that the strongest or fittest should survive and flourish in society, while the weak and unfit should be allowed to die."

Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton, was a strong proponent "of the role of heredity in variations between individuals and groups, his championing of "nature" versus "nurture" was developed in the 1869 book 'Hereditary Genius' and then via the study of twins. In 1883, he coined the word "eugenics", and advocated strategies for improving human stock to give "the more suitable races or strains of blood" a better chance of success. His idea of "negative eugenics", designed to restrict the reproduction of less "fit" populations, would eventually feed into the policies of sterilisation followed by many from Nazi Germany to Social Democratic Sweden."

Did Charles Darwin believe in racial inequality?

"But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing."

The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

In the United States, the Civil War started fueled by the ideas of equality of humans. One of the reasons was the South wanted to keep slavery while the expansion to the western new territories by the Northerners did not want slavery (due to victory in the Mexican War 1846-48). It became the war over States Rights vs the Federal Government. It was led by President Abraham Lincoln and his Emancipation Proclamation and the 13th Amendment to eradicate slavery. The 14th Amendment after the war started civil rights for all.

However, after the war, the idea of eugenics led to the founding of Planned Parenthood by Margaret Sanger. She "believed she was ‘working in accord with the universal law of evolution’. She maintained that the brains of Australian Aborigines were only one step more evolved than chimpanzees and just under blacks, Jews and Italians. When arguing for eugenics, Sanger quoted Darwin as an authority when discussing ‘natural checks’ of the population, such as war, which helped to reduce the population. Her magazine even argued for ‘state-sponsored sterilization programs’, forcibly sterilizing the ‘less capable’. She won many academics and scientists to her cause, including Harvard University sociologists E. M. East, University of Michigan President Clarence C. Little and Johns Hopkins psychiatrist Alfred Meyer."

Margaret Sanger Darwinian eugenicist - creation.com

‘"Civil rights’ doesn’t mean anything without a right to life!" declared Hunter. He and the other marchers were protesting the disproportionately high number of abortions in the black community. The high number is no accident. Many Americans–black and white–are unaware of Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger’s Negro Project. Sanger created this program in 1939, after the organization changed its name from the American Birth Control League (ABCL) to the Birth Control Federation of America (BCFA).

The aim of the program was to restrict–many believe exterminate–the black population. Under the pretense of "better health" and "family planning," Sanger cleverly implemented her plan. What’s more shocking is Sanger’s beguilement of black America’s créme de la créme–those prominent, well educated and well-to-do–into executing her scheme. Some within the black elite saw birth control as a means to attain economic empowerment, elevate the race and garner the respect of whites.

The Negro Project has had lasting repercussions in the black community: "We have become victims of genocide by our own hands," cried Hunter at the "Say So" march."

BlackGenocide.org | The Negro Project

Thus, Darwin's ToE ideas led to the Holocaust and black genocide.

I wouldn't associate the two so directly, there were obviously many factors, and I don't think that sort of argument helps people view Darwinism more objectively/ scientifically...

But it is unavoidably part of the equation, of how society changed it's views on the inherent 'value' of people. Eugenics programs were not limited to race, e.g. in Canada, scoring below a certain IQ could justify sterilization not so long ago. i think that when we discard the idea of an equal God given value for every human life, it's inevitable that this perception of 'inequality' will cause problems.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
When Darwin opened the Pandora's box of evilution, all Hell broke
loose.... racism, slavery, eugenics, holocausts, genocides, etc.
Oh, if only Darwin had never existed we'd still live in paradise.
 

Spideymon77

A Smiling Empty Soul
I will admit, as much as I like Darwin, he started some things.

Let's be honest though, that is not at all what Evolution is about. Darwin was just trying to figure out where species came from, not how races are better.

Your conclusion about Darwin causing the Holocaust and black genocide is correct.

It's kind of sad how people, while still believing in God, used Evolution as an excuse for racism.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
This thread isn't for anyone really. This is a boring, transparent an attempt at using personal assassination to undermine evolutionary theory by attacking sociopolitical stances instead of the science of ToE.
Futher, eugenics doesn't make sense in the context of ToE since 'fitness' is not actually any concrete list of any trait or series of traits. If anything seems to have enabled humans to succeed it's variability, which enables greater chance of adaptability, and social empathy as people without physical fitness or outside racial majority can and have contributed significantly to advancement of science, technology, invention et all. Therefore, ToE is antithetical to eugenics and anyone who says otherwise and who is actually interested in discussing evolution, rather than interested in making an intellectually lazy pathway for 'god did it' has a lot more explaining to do.
 

siti

Well-Known Member
In Victorian England, Darwin's society had already held the belief that some races were superior to others based on the science of the day. They also had black slaves imported to do their menial work. These slaves were not treated as people, but considered property.
Incorrect - Lord Mansfield's judgement in the "Somersett's Case" effectively ruled that slavery was illegal in England and Scotland in 1772. In 1833 the Slavery Abolition Act outlawed slavery throughout the British Empire with a few exceptions in which slavery was not specifically outlawed until 1843. In 1837, Queen Victoria inherited a realm in which slavery had all but been entirely eliminated and by the time Darwin published "Origin of Species" there had been no legal slavery for almost 90 years in Britain itself and anywhere in the British Empire for 16 years. "Darwin's society" certainly did not hold the views you are imputing, which rather undermines your argument.

All you have really demonstrated is that some idiots misinterpreted the demonstrable fact of evolution for misguided political ends...and some, it seems, still do!
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
This thread is not for the faint of heart. I can't believe that scientific racism promoted itself to being acceptable from false scientific ideas proposed by Charles Darwin to social Darwinism and Eugenics to systematic extermination by the Nazis and Planned Parenthood.

Briefly, we know that Darwin's ideas of natural selection started with his book, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life." In it, Darwin proposed that animal and plant populations evolve throughout the course of several generations by the mechanism of natural selection. He proposed that the diversity of life came about through pressures on different animal and plant species through the survival of the fittest mechanisms (term adopted from fifth printing) and common descent. Darwin meant by "fittest," those species that could best pass along their genes to future generations. In Victorian England, Darwin's society had already held the belief that some races were superior to others based on the science of the day. They also had black slaves imported to do their menial work. These slaves were not treated as people, but considered property. The science was scientific racism which a few scientists theorized that blacks and aboriginies were lesser breeds of humans or savages. In Darwin's second book, The Descent of Man, "that "the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world".

Darwin's ideas were taken by social Darwinists and promoted to eradicate the weak and unfit. Social Darwinism "states that the strongest or fittest should survive and flourish in society, while the weak and unfit should be allowed to die."

Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton, was a strong proponent "of the role of heredity in variations between individuals and groups, his championing of "nature" versus "nurture" was developed in the 1869 book 'Hereditary Genius' and then via the study of twins. In 1883, he coined the word "eugenics", and advocated strategies for improving human stock to give "the more suitable races or strains of blood" a better chance of success. His idea of "negative eugenics", designed to restrict the reproduction of less "fit" populations, would eventually feed into the policies of sterilisation followed by many from Nazi Germany to Social Democratic Sweden."

Did Charles Darwin believe in racial inequality?

"But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing."

The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

In the United States, the Civil War started fueled by the ideas of equality of humans. One of the reasons was the South wanted to keep slavery while the expansion to the western new territories by the Northerners did not want slavery (due to victory in the Mexican War 1846-48). It became the war over States Rights vs the Federal Government. It was led by President Abraham Lincoln and his Emancipation Proclamation and the 13th Amendment to eradicate slavery. The 14th Amendment after the war started civil rights for all.

However, after the war, the idea of eugenics led to the founding of Planned Parenthood by Margaret Sanger. She "believed she was ‘working in accord with the universal law of evolution’. She maintained that the brains of Australian Aborigines were only one step more evolved than chimpanzees and just under blacks, Jews and Italians. When arguing for eugenics, Sanger quoted Darwin as an authority when discussing ‘natural checks’ of the population, such as war, which helped to reduce the population. Her magazine even argued for ‘state-sponsored sterilization programs’, forcibly sterilizing the ‘less capable’. She won many academics and scientists to her cause, including Harvard University sociologists E. M. East, University of Michigan President Clarence C. Little and Johns Hopkins psychiatrist Alfred Meyer."

Margaret Sanger Darwinian eugenicist - creation.com

‘"Civil rights’ doesn’t mean anything without a right to life!" declared Hunter. He and the other marchers were protesting the disproportionately high number of abortions in the black community. The high number is no accident. Many Americans–black and white–are unaware of Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger’s Negro Project. Sanger created this program in 1939, after the organization changed its name from the American Birth Control League (ABCL) to the Birth Control Federation of America (BCFA).

The aim of the program was to restrict–many believe exterminate–the black population. Under the pretense of "better health" and "family planning," Sanger cleverly implemented her plan. What’s more shocking is Sanger’s beguilement of black America’s créme de la créme–those prominent, well educated and well-to-do–into executing her scheme. Some within the black elite saw birth control as a means to attain economic empowerment, elevate the race and garner the respect of whites.

The Negro Project has had lasting repercussions in the black community: "We have become victims of genocide by our own hands," cried Hunter at the "Say So" march."

BlackGenocide.org | The Negro Project

Thus, Darwin's ToE ideas led to the Holocaust and black genocide.
What would you do if I made a thread where I showed how chattel slavery was based almost entirely in Christian theology?
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
This thread is not for the faint of heart. I can't believe that scientific racism promoted itself to being acceptable from false scientific ideas proposed by Charles Darwin to social Darwinism and Eugenics to systematic extermination by the Nazis and Planned Parenthood.

Briefly, we know that Darwin's ideas of natural selection started with his book, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life." In it, Darwin proposed that animal and plant populations evolve throughout the course of several generations by the mechanism of natural selection. He proposed that the diversity of life came about through pressures on different animal and plant species through the survival of the fittest mechanisms (term adopted from fifth printing) and common descent. Darwin meant by "fittest," those species that could best pass along their genes to future generations. In Victorian England, Darwin's society had already held the belief that some races were superior to others based on the science of the day. They also had black slaves imported to do their menial work. These slaves were not treated as people, but considered property. The science was scientific racism which a few scientists theorized that blacks and aboriginies were lesser breeds of humans or savages. In Darwin's second book, The Descent of Man, "that "the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world".

Darwin's ideas were taken by social Darwinists and promoted to eradicate the weak and unfit. Social Darwinism "states that the strongest or fittest should survive and flourish in society, while the weak and unfit should be allowed to die."

Darwin's cousin, Francis Galton, was a strong proponent "of the role of heredity in variations between individuals and groups, his championing of "nature" versus "nurture" was developed in the 1869 book 'Hereditary Genius' and then via the study of twins. In 1883, he coined the word "eugenics", and advocated strategies for improving human stock to give "the more suitable races or strains of blood" a better chance of success. His idea of "negative eugenics", designed to restrict the reproduction of less "fit" populations, would eventually feed into the policies of sterilisation followed by many from Nazi Germany to Social Democratic Sweden."

Did Charles Darwin believe in racial inequality?

"But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing."

The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

In the United States, the Civil War started fueled by the ideas of equality of humans. One of the reasons was the South wanted to keep slavery while the expansion to the western new territories by the Northerners did not want slavery (due to victory in the Mexican War 1846-48). It became the war over States Rights vs the Federal Government. It was led by President Abraham Lincoln and his Emancipation Proclamation and the 13th Amendment to eradicate slavery. The 14th Amendment after the war started civil rights for all.

However, after the war, the idea of eugenics led to the founding of Planned Parenthood by Margaret Sanger. She "believed she was ‘working in accord with the universal law of evolution’. She maintained that the brains of Australian Aborigines were only one step more evolved than chimpanzees and just under blacks, Jews and Italians. When arguing for eugenics, Sanger quoted Darwin as an authority when discussing ‘natural checks’ of the population, such as war, which helped to reduce the population. Her magazine even argued for ‘state-sponsored sterilization programs’, forcibly sterilizing the ‘less capable’. She won many academics and scientists to her cause, including Harvard University sociologists E. M. East, University of Michigan President Clarence C. Little and Johns Hopkins psychiatrist Alfred Meyer."

Margaret Sanger Darwinian eugenicist - creation.com

‘"Civil rights’ doesn’t mean anything without a right to life!" declared Hunter. He and the other marchers were protesting the disproportionately high number of abortions in the black community. The high number is no accident. Many Americans–black and white–are unaware of Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger’s Negro Project. Sanger created this program in 1939, after the organization changed its name from the American Birth Control League (ABCL) to the Birth Control Federation of America (BCFA).

The aim of the program was to restrict–many believe exterminate–the black population. Under the pretense of "better health" and "family planning," Sanger cleverly implemented her plan. What’s more shocking is Sanger’s beguilement of black America’s créme de la créme–those prominent, well educated and well-to-do–into executing her scheme. Some within the black elite saw birth control as a means to attain economic empowerment, elevate the race and garner the respect of whites.

The Negro Project has had lasting repercussions in the black community: "We have become victims of genocide by our own hands," cried Hunter at the "Say So" march."

BlackGenocide.org | The Negro Project

Thus, Darwin's ToE ideas led to the Holocaust and black genocide.
In other news from the 25th century:-
The stone age caveman identified as the inventor of fire has been whisked forward in time to stand in trial for the millions of deaths by fire over the hundred thousand years since his invention. The rather shabby individual is seen to vigorously grunt his innocence by pointing at the all barbecued mammoth leg-bone he had been using his fire to cook his last lunch....

:rolleyes:
 
Thus, Darwin's ToE ideas led to the Holocaust and black genocide.

Popular 'Social Darwinism' was influenced far more by people such as Herbert Spencer and Ernst Haekel, and many ideas predated Darwin's TOE.

Such ideas were a factor in racialist beliefs and policies though, but their popularity was probably, at least in part, because they confirmed and legitimated people's existing prejudices.
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
Wiki: The Slavery Abolition Act 1833 (citation 3 & 4 Will. IV c. 73) was an 1833 Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom abolishing slavery throughout the British Empire (with the exceptions "of the Territories in the Possession of the East India Company", Ceylon, now Sri Lanka, and Saint Helena; the exceptions were eliminated in 1843).

On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life was published on 24 November 1859 ...

26 years later ... hmmmmmm.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
In other news from the 25th century:-
The stone age caveman identified as the inventor of fire has been whisked forward in time to stand in trial for the millions of deaths by fire over the hundred thousand years since his invention. The rather shabby individual is seen to vigorously grunt his innocence by pointing at the all barbecued mammoth leg-bone he had been using his fire to cook his last lunch....

:rolleyes:
Fun fact the creator of the Nobel peace prize also invented dynamite but didn't like being blamed for all the deaths it caused. The prize was literally PR. Clearly Darwin's marketing team were subpar.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Actually Darwin wrote that social animals evolve this thing called a conscience to help with group adhesion and to get them performing pro-social behaviors. Really, this "Darwinism" and "Social Darwinism" shouldn't even be using his name because it's not what he wrote.
 

David M

Well-Known Member
This thread is not for the faint of heart. I can't believe that scientific racism promoted itself to being acceptable from false scientific ideas proposed by Charles Darwin to social Darwinism and Eugenics to systematic extermination by the Nazis and Planned Parenthood.

Briefly, we know that Darwin's ideas of natural selection started with his book, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life." In it, Darwin proposed that animal and plant populations evolve throughout the course of several generations by the mechanism of natural selection. He proposed that the diversity of life came about through pressures on different animal and plant species through the survival of the fittest mechanisms (term adopted from fifth printing) and common descent. Darwin meant by "fittest," those species that could best pass along their genes to future generations. In Victorian England, Darwin's society had already held the belief that some races were superior to others based on the science of the day. They also had black slaves imported to do their menial work. These slaves were not treated as people, but considered property. The science was scientific racism which a few scientists theorized that blacks and aboriginies were lesser breeds of humans or savages. In Darwin's second book, The Descent of Man, "that "the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world".

So you are as ignorant of history as you are of science.

Slavery was justified by religion in Europe and the US well before people tried to justify it using evolution. Slavery has existed for thousands of years and was practiced all over the world in Darwin's time, and yes it was practiced in Africa by native africans.

Darwin's ideas were taken by social Darwinists and promoted to eradicate the weak and unfit. Social Darwinism "states that the strongest or fittest should survive and flourish in society, while the weak and unfit should be allowed to die."

A principle that Darwin specifically rejected in his writings.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
This thread is not for the faint of heart. I can't believe that scientific racism promoted itself to being acceptable from false scientific ideas proposed by Charles Darwin to social Darwinism and Eugenics to systematic extermination by the Nazis and Planned Parenthood.
This thread, like your other one, is a smoke screen.

Because you find the truth uncomfortable, you are attempting to deflect the horrors of 19-20th century Christendom from it's true roots in religion. You want to pretend that race and orientation bigotry came from Darwin's fledgling efforts at science instead of Scripture.
Well, the fact remains that the primitive ethics and worldview that resulted in the slavery and genocide and oppression were firmly rooted in the teachings of Christianity and the orientation bigotry still is.
This thread is a big lie from a religionist.
Tom
 
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