Darwin's Theory | True?

[Revoltingest]

This really belongs in the Creation/Evolution area.

The subject has been beaten to death before this thread. Even your word "ape" is incorrect.

Bogus chart.
There's no Scottopithecus revoltus.

 

[shunyadragon]

Alright, I ll believe you if I saw a half Human half Ape guy in this Homindae Wiki

Australopithcenes?

 

[Loaai]

Personally I think the idea that the earth being the only planet with life proves there is a creator is a faulty idea.

If God was an omnipotent creator of life why was God impotent to create life only under specific natural circumstances.

If it was all due to chance we would expect there to be barren planets where the numbers necessary for life didn't come up in the cosmic draw and that is precisely what we find

That's the main reason why God created us, it's to test us, to know who would worship him with HIS choice not under any kind of force or pressure, and do you really think we are here because of a very rare coincidence?

 

[McBell]

Peace Be Upon You.
So let's suppose that what Darwin said was right, Humanity has evolved from Apes, somehow it was proven scientifically that Apes were the origins of a creature that can think, understand, express his thoughts, have consciousness and choose his path in life, but then, does Darwin's theory only apply on Human beings and Apes?

May I ask what is the origins of Apes? or Maybe even the origins of origins of Apes.. May I ask the main origin of all biological creatures on Earth?
If Darwin's theory is correct then it should lead us to 1 single living organism and from this organism every other creature was developed and originated throughout thousands or even millions of years, but then we say.. what was the origin of this single creature or this single organism? Was it just a coincidence that this organism somehow developed and originated through a very complex chemical reaction and survived specifically on Earth? Have you ever wondered why humanity with all this progress in space has not yet discovered a single planet that has a single creature on it!

Is it really a coincidence that Earth is the only place where biology is present? Is it really a coincidence that the only planet among Trillions of others that has perfect conditions for living organisms is Earth? Why do you think human beings are the only creatures in this universe that know how to think, understand and have conciseness?(till now) Biology just developed?
Then why didn't it develop for Dogs, cats, crocodiles, cows, ants, bees and even Apes! Did humanity prove that an Ape can be transformed into a human?

See.. Einstein's theories were falsified a lot by other scientists when he first published them, but then it was all about the practical experiment that beat all expectations when this experiment proved that his theory was actually correct, and suddenly his theories became a fact. something we are sure of.. something we can take for granted in our future development in all fields of science.
But back to Darwin.. Did he transform an Ape into a Human? Has any scientist transformed any creature on Earth into a human? Is there something called Impossible? Can we actually go back in time?

At this point I hope you all know where this is going, what happened and what is happening to human beings is not a coincidence by any means but to prove the validity of Darwin's theory someone has to conduct a practical experiment that will shut down any other doubters and transform an Ape into a human.. Or maybe anything into a human.. Can this ever happen?

It's all an obvious answer that there is something much bigger and unimaginable behind all of this.

You do know that Darwins theory has been left in the ancient past is now merely a memory of the early middle of the whole evolution line, right?

 

[Loaai]

Australopithcenes

ehh.. Monkey

+ Photoshopped

 

[McBell]

The theory it self studies evolution of various creatures that lived and living on Earth, BUT it can not conclude that Humans' were originated through any kind of creature evolution with just some fossils that looks like monkeys and humans at the same time.

Then it is a good thing that the theory of evolution does not rely just on some fossils.

 

[Loaai]

Then it is a good thing that the theory of evolution does not rely just on some fossils.

But it does actually rely on fossils.

 

[Left Coast]

@Loaai - may I make the smallest, humblest suggestion?

We have an entire section on the site dedicated to this topic (Evolution vs. Creationism) and we've moved your thread there since it fits.

This topic has been discussed here a lot and there are some quite competent scientists and laypeople on the site who have studied topics relating to evolution a lot. My suggestion is that you read through at least some of these threads to get the lay of the land here. If you have some new angle, some interesting argument you want to explore or some specific facet of evolution you want to delve into, go for it. But this sort of broad sweeping thread criticizing something you don't seem to understand too well doesn't usually go to plan.

Listen and read first. Then comment.

Just my two cents, proceed.

 

[McBell]

But it does actually rely on fossils.

Nope.
What do you actually know about the theory of evolution?
I ask because your posts on the topic indicate that you know very little about it.
AND that that very little you do know is not accurate.

 

[shunyadragon]

ehh.. Monkey

+ Photoshopped

No walked erect and tool maker.

 

[Loaai]

@Loaai - may I make the smallest, humblest suggestion?

We have an entire section on the site dedicated to this topic (Evolution vs. Creationism) and we've moved your thread there since it fits.

This topic has been discussed here a lot and there are some quite competent scientists and laypeople on the site who have studied topics relating to evolution a lot. My suggestion is that you read through at least some of these threads to get the lay of the land here. If you have some new angle, some interesting argument you want to explore or some specific facet of evolution you want to delve into, go for it. But this sort of broad sweeping thread criticizing something you don't seem to understand too well doesn't usually go to plan.

Listen and read first. Then comment.

Just my two cents, proceed.

Ty for your help

 

[danieldemol]

That's the main reason why God created us, it's to test us, to know who would worship him with HIS choice not under any kind of force or pressure, and do you really think we are here because of a very rare coincidence?

Absolutely, consider the universe like a giant pack of cards in which billions of draws have been made from the pack.

It was inevitable under such circumstances that someone would pull up the ace of diamonds for example.

That happened to be us, but we can see other failed draws from the pack around us where the lucky card did not come up in the form of barren planets.

For what it's worth I acknowledge God as creator of the spirit realm, but I do not know how God interacts with the physical realm if at all, so I do not consider God as a physical creator as that is beyond my knowledge.

 

[Loaai]

Nope.
What do you actually know about the theory of evolution?
I ask because your posts on the topic indicate that you know very little about it.
AND that that very little you do know is not accurate.

Do you really believe that you were an Ape? and do you believe that if you leave an Ape for a thousand years.. would he actually ever evolve to be a human? I'm not talking science because I don't confess on this theory anyway. I read it's main parts and it's fundamentally based on incorrect expressions.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Alright, I ll believe you if I saw a half Human half Ape guy in this Homindae Wiki

There is no such thing as a "half human half ape" since humans are apes. You are an ape. Creationists have this strange idea that creatures evolve into different kinds, but since they cannot even define "kind" the idea is nonsensical.

 

[Subduction Zone]

ehh.. Monkey

+ Photoshopped

Technically you are a monkey too.

 

[McBell]

Do you really believe that you were an Ape? and do you believe that if you leave an Ape for a thousand years.. would he actually ever evolve to be a human? I'm not talking science because I don't confess on this theory anyway. I read it's main parts and it's fundamentally based on incorrect expressions.

If you are not talking science then you are not talking about the theory of evolution.
Your very first question reveals your gross ignorance of the topic.
It is not that we were once great apes.
We ARE great apes.

Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Suborder: Haplorhini
Infraorder: Simiiformes
Family: Hominidae
Subfamily: Homininae
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo​

 

[Loaai]

Technically you are a monkey too.

If you believe in this theory then I don't. It's exactly as saying I believe in God but you don't, and that's the main difference between believers and atheists. Thus if you think you're a monkey I don't

 

[Loaai]

If you are not talking science then you are not talking about the theory of evolution.
Your very first question reveals your gross ignorance of the topic.
It is not that we were once great apes.
We ARE great apes.

Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Suborder: Haplorhini
Infraorder: Simiiformes
Family: Hominidae
Subfamily: Homininae
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo​

You just came up to me and said, hey Apples were actually tomatoes 2000 years ago and I'm supposed to believe you. Again, don't say "We" say "I" speak for yourself because I don't or won't confess that my origins are monkeys as you do.

 

[Valjean]

The theory it self studies evolution of various creatures that lived and living on Earth, BUT it can not conclude that Humans' were originated through any kind of creature evolution with just some fossils that looks like monkeys and humans at the same time.

There's a lot more than just fossils.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If you believe in this theory then I don't. It's exactly as saying I believe in God but you don't, and that's the main difference between believers and atheists. Thus if you think you're a monkey I don't

Yes, and you are demonstrably wrong. It has nothing to do with believing in God or not, and in fact if one believes in God one really should accept the theory of evolution. The evidence for the theory of evolution is so strong that trying to say that the Bible stories are literally true one is in effect claiming that their God is a liar. If your God cannot lie then evolution is a fact.