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[firedragon]

And stealing apples is also not the same as killing a child.

Thats an improvement. Great. But wearing a mask is like killing a child? That was your analogy.

 

[firedragon]

notably Qatar and UAE, by stealing passports from migrant workers

Lol. What kind of nonsense is that? Where did you learn that from?

 

[Shakeel]

Haha. I think you should go back in all of these posts and read up again to get the interpretation why. This is what you have been arguing for so long.

Are you too shy to repeat your "interpretation" that pregnancy and breast feeding usually make a woman incapable of giving witness?

 

[Shakeel]

If only more agreed with you. Salafis, specifically ISIS, want to impose what used to be earlier understanding on the modern world.

ISIS are not Salafis.

 

[Shakeel]

Can you me scholarly sources that you follow who say "If they're able and desire it then that's the ideal in Islam" in answer to young children marrying to avoid having premarital sex?

Thanks.

I didn't notice you said young children. I assume 5-year-olds aren't able to have nor desire it.

 

[firedragon]

usually

You made that up.

 

[Shakeel]

For instance, we believe that slaughtering animals in a certain way is pure cruelty not justifiable by believing in some deity. And that is why we banned Halal and Kosher.

That's laughable. The way any average Western slaughter house in Europe treats the animals is awful. In halal slaughter the animal either feels no pain or feels the absolute minimum of pain.

 

[Shakeel]

You made that up.

No. It's clearly implied by your posts. You said some women might be able to do things as usual while pregnant or breast feeding.

 

[firedragon]

I didn't notice you said young children. I assume 5-year-olds aren't able to have nor desire it.

Maybe teens are all grown up sexual beings in your world, in mine, they are children. Early teens are young children. I mean in my world.

There are people listed in most law enforcement agencies around the world for thinking otherwise.

 

[firedragon]

No. It's clearly implied by your posts.

You made that up. Are you "shy" (which is a word you used) to accept you just made that up?

 

[Shakeel]

Could be, but many of your co-believers rather prefer staying here than going back to their Islamic societies. For some strange reason. For sure we are not forcing them to stay.


Well, it is not 935. At least on this part of the world

By the way, here it is also not allowed to marry children. What do you think of that?

Ciao

- viole

Muslims don't have to marry officially anyway, if Islamic marriage isn't recognized somewhere. In that case they can marry anyone anytime and no one will know.

 

[Shakeel]

Maybe teens are all grown up sexual beings in your world, in mine, they are children. Early teens are young children. I mean in my world.

There are people listed in most law enforcement agencies around the world for thinking otherwise.

Actually I seem to have overestimated the age of young children, but really the words should give you an indication.

young children Definition | Law Insider

"young children means children aged between one and three years."

"young children means persons who are more than 12 months but not more than 36 months of age."

 

[Shakeel]

You made that up. Are you "shy" (which is a word you used) to accept you just made that up?

I didn't.

 

[firedragon]

Actually I seem to have overestimated the age of young children, but really the words should give you an indication.

young children Definition | Law Insider

"young children means children aged between one and three years."

"young children means persons who are more than 12 months but not more than 36 months of age."

Thanks. But again, let me cut and paste my older post.

Maybe teens are all grown up sexual beings in your world, in mine, they are children. Early teens are young children. I mean in my world.

There are people listed in most law enforcement agencies around the world for thinking otherwise.

 

[Shakeel]

Is there any point in Jews and Muslims debating the Tanach (Jewish bible) if Muslims believe that the Tanach is not the Thaurath (think that's what it's called) but rather a text falsified by the Jews?

Sure, because they don't believe in half of what it says anyway.

 

[firedragon]

Actually I seem to have overestimated the age of young children, but really the words should give you an indication.

young children Definition | Law Insider

"young children means children aged between one and three years."

"young children means persons who are more than 12 months but not more than 36 months of age."

Strange you missed this. Quick googling for everything? Dont miss this.

This is also quick googling.

• young child means a child of or under the age of 12 years.
• young child means a person who in the opinion of the Court, in a prosecution for an offence against this Act, is under the age of fourteen years.
• young child means a person under the age of fifteen years;
• young child means achild of or under the age of 14 years.

young child Definition | Law Insider

I FIND IT FUNNY HOW YOU PICKED SOME BABIES AS YOUNG CHILDREN FROM THE SAME SOURCE, SAME PAGE THAT I GIVE ABOVE.

I GUESS SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT YOUNG CHILDREN TO BE SEXUALISED AND THOUGHT OF AS "MARITABLE GROWNUPS".

This is intent, not research findings. It's kind of a sickness.

 

[firedragon]

Is there any point in Jews and Muslims debating the Tanach (Jewish bible) if Muslims believe that the Tanach is not the Thaurath (think that's what it's called) but rather a text falsified by the Jews?

Even the Jews dont believe the Tanakh is the Thaurath.

 

[Clara Tea]

Hi everyone, I'm new here. I don't know how this works, but here we go.

- You can post your objections (or questions) against Islam here – it's scripture, theology, philosophy, law, politics, spirituality, or history –, bring your best supportive arguments & a white flag (or a prayer mat) for future use.

Good luck!

Solmon Rushdie criticized the Muslim religion in his book "Satanic Verses" and ended up with a Fatwa against him. That's a contract to kill him.

I do not wish to suggest that an organization that would kill someone over a disagreement is harsh (afraid of retributions).

 

[Clara Tea]

Solmon Rushdie criticized the Muslim religion in his book "Satanic Verses" and ended up with a Fatwa against him. That's a contract to kill him.

I do not wish to suggest that an organization that would kill someone over a disagreement is harsh (afraid of retributions).

We must pray to an end to terrorism from the Muslims in the Middle East, which is keeping US troops in the region. The constant terrorist attacks in Israel attest to more Islamic violence.

 

[Shakeel]

Thanks. But again, let me cut and paste my older post.

Maybe teens are all grown up sexual beings in your world, in mine, they are children. Early teens are young children. I mean in my world.

There are people listed in most law enforcement agencies around the world for thinking otherwise.

Alright. I guess you can give new meanings to English words, but I'm afraid this might be done in your village alone because Google hasn't heard of your definition yet. I'm not sure it's heard of your interpretations either.

https://www.medicinenet.com/young_children_child_development/article.htm

Good Toys for Young Children by Age and Stage | NAEYC

What is Young Children | IGI Global