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Debunk this BS website, can you?

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Hey!
I was on YA and saw someone posted a link to this BS site. I skimmed through it and the material provided there is extremely filled with hatred against my religion. It's disgusting.

http://www.exposingchristianity.com

Id try not to take it too personally. People where hiting me left and write about the denomic nature of Catholicism at the time I practiced. It shows a lot about the person who talks against another's faith. All I can say is pray. That's pretty universal between most faiths if not all.

Nam.:leafwind:
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
People have the right to believe what they believe, if your religion is that, then so what, that doesn't make your beliefs right or wrong, don't be so neurotic, let others have their say.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It's disgusting.
It's also a badly written, conspiracy theory-laden version of The Davinci Code meets a web of cherry-picked 19th century anti-Christian polemics. I'm not Christian (or religious), so my distaste her is perhaps less ideological, but it's the internet. It's 99% garbage (and that's generous). One can get upset over every racist, neo-nazi, anti-(one's religion, political ideology, etc.), misogynist, etc., website, or one can realize that worrying about sites like this is as useful as worrying about the opinions of each individual human. Better people than I would also say that those who consider such sites seriously should be ignored too, but I rather detest the spread of inaccuracies masquerading as facts. So I address sites like these at times if someone uses them as a reference source, but otherwise I ignore them.
 

Zardoz

Wonderful Wizard
Premium Member
Hey!
I was on YA and saw someone posted a link to this BS site. I skimmed through it and the material provided there is extremely filled with hatred against my religion. It's disgusting.

It's pretty amateurish, not worth even taking serious enough to debunk.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
There's nothing to debunk. It's garbage.

If you're interested in something with teeth, try Dawkins, Russell, or Nietzsche.
 

steve_vk

New Member
It's pretty amateurish, not worth even taking serious enough to debunk.
Hmm, I'll just try not to get serious about it. but emotions come in my way. I'm kinda emotional about my religion. Anyway, Thanks ! I'd just try to ignore it now.
 

steve_vk

New Member
It's also a badly written, conspiracy theory-laden version of The Davinci Code meets a web of cherry-picked 19th century anti-Christian polemics. I'm not Christian (or religious), so my distaste her is perhaps less ideological, but it's the internet. It's 99% garbage (and that's generous). One can get upset over every racist, neo-nazi, anti-(one's religion, political ideology, etc.), misogynist, etc., website, or one can realize that worrying about sites like this is as useful as worrying about the opinions of each individual human. Better people than I would also say that those who consider such sites seriously should be ignored too, but I rather detest the spread of inaccuracies masquerading as facts. So I address sites like these at times if someone uses them as a reference source, but otherwise I ignore them.
It's natural for some people to get upset over such things like me. You seem to be knowledgeable enough. I couldn't think that deep. Lol
 

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It's natural for some people to get upset over such things like me.
Oh trust me, I get that. Members here who have had the unfortunate experience of reading many of my posts are all to aware of how I can go off on rants about what any sane person would regard as trivial at best. I guess you could say I've learned that I can choose to never get anything done because I'm constantly battling views I find misguided, flawed, harmful, etc. to those who aren't espousing them because I can't write to every editorial, website creator, author, researcher, etc., or I can passively avoid websites like the one you linked to until they are introduced into some social or professional domain of mine. I'm still working on not reacting immaturely, arrogantly, and dismissively when this happens (it's a lot easier when I'm teaching or working on a research project than when I can't sleep and decide that this is a good time to write a blog entry, go on these forums, or comment on some other site/blog).
 

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I honestly cannot find any counter arguments. Can you?
I'm listing these in order of those I identified by skimming through the complete pdf version of the site.
1) The etymological account of the Torah: "The Hebrew written "Five Books of Moses" also known as the "Pentateuch", along with the "Torah" were STOLEN and CORRUPTED from the Egyptian "TAROT."" Here's the etymology of Tarot:
"Etymology: < French tarot (also 16th cent. tarault , tarau ), < Italian *tarocco (plural tarocchi ): see taroc n." (OED)
and here's Torah: Etymology: Hebrew tōrāh ‘direction, instruction, doctrine, law’, < yārāh ‘to throw’, in Hiphil ‘to show, direct, instruct’. (OED)

2) "The fictitious Jewish "God" "Yaweh/Jehova's" name was inserted, replacing the names of many Gentile/Pagan Gods. The entity "Jehova" is fictitious. The name "Jehova" was stolen from the Roman God "Jove" for one."First, "Yahweh" is a modern spelling of the tetragrammaton. The Hebrew (and more generally Semitic) alphabets lacked vowels other than aleph. Thus the proper transliteration of Yahweh is YHWH. As for Jove: Etymology: < Latin Jov-em accusative (other oblique cases Jovis, Jovi, Jove) of Old Latin Jovis, for which in the classical period the compound Juppiter, Jūpiter (= Jovis-pater) was substituted; in Italian Giove." (OED, see also e.g., Buck's comparative grammar and the more recent reference comparative grammar by Sihler). Latin had no "j". This was a later scribal practice to distinguish the "y" sound of certain "i's" in Latin from the vowel "i" in Latin. Also, references to YHWH predate any Latin literature and can be found in Ugaritic texts.

3) "Mithra, the celestial intermediary between Ahura Mazda and Angra Manyu [Ahriman], has numerous striking parallels with the Nazarene 'Jesus Christ.'" This is drivel that has somehow managed to last repeated demonstrations of its obvious falsehood because apparently so many people would prefer to trust random websites than specialists in Greco-Roman religions or the Mythras cult more specifically (e.g., Beck, Burkert, Clauss, etc.). It's Frazer stripped of even the evidence he managed to muster.

4) Skimming down, most of the sources that the Bible is said to have stolen from don't exist apart from references to them and post-Biblical compositions.

5) "The resurrection is a common theme found in numerous completely different religions throughout the world, symbolic of a descent to the underworld and a later return. Mesopotamia: Ishtar's/Inanna's descent and return [she was resurrected from the dead], Egypt: Osiris, God of the Underworld was resurrected, Greece: Persephone's descent into the underworld and return, the list of resurrected Gods is extensive and is based a concept, not actual characters."
All wrong. Not only does one only find "numerous resurrections" in various religions by ignoring what resurrection means as well as glossing over the need to actual cite specific sources rather than popular mythology collections, but even these don't actually get us to "resurrection" (Osiris was reassembled except for his Penis, Persephone didn't die, and in these and other cases there are multiple versions some of which were influenced by Christianity: "A second impetus behind the growth of pagan mono theism was the influence of Christianity itself. Jan Bremmer has noted how, from the second century onwards, apparently new mystery religions appeared, devoted to gods who die and resurrect, such as Atis, or act as personal saviours, such as Mithras...G. W. Bowerstock has drawn attention to the fondness of late paganism for trinities"
Hutton, R. (2003). Witches, Druids, and King Arthur. Hambledon and London.

6) "THE NUMEROUS TRINITIES". See above.

7) "The Norse God Odin preceded Jesus the Christ." However, our sources about him were transmitted by Christian monks who Christianized German and Celtic myths.

8) "Below is a further list of Gods who hung from trees" basically none of whom did, but this is meaningless as apart from the idiom in Paul which refers to crucifixion as hanging upon a tree or pole, there isn't any tradition that holds Jesus was hanged on a tree.

9) "the word "Pagan" means 'Gentile.'" Actually, pāgānus meant "rustic" or "country dweller", and was equated with paganism because of Tertullian's De Corona Miites.

10) Most of the Eastern references gloss over the actually modern creation of what we regard to be Hinduism and Buddhism; see e.g., Clarke, J. J. (2002). Oriental Enlightenment: The Encounter between Asian and Western Thought. Routledge.; King, R. (1999). Orientalism and Religion: Post-Colonial Theory, India and ‘The Mystic East’. Routledge.; Pennington, B. K. (2005). Was Hinduism Invented?: Britons, Indians, and the Colonial Construction of Religion. Oxford University Press.; Duchesne, R. (2011). The Uniqueness of Western Civilization (Studies in Critical Social Sciences Vol. 28). Brill.

11) "Yet, in spite of this, the Christian Church murdered en masse, those accused of being witches, sorcerers and those of Pagan religions" They did murder tends of thousands of accused witches over a few centuries. Before that, they made pagan persecution of witchcraft illegal (the two largest witch trials known, during witch more accused witches were executed at one time than across all of Europe for a typical entire year during the "burning times", occurred in pre-Christian Rome).

12) "During the reign of the Roman Emperor Constantine CE 306-337 the doctrines of the Christian church were regarded as the foundation of law.4 Heretics [persons who opposed church teachings, or who were even accused of such] were sought out, tortured and eventually murdered". In reality, "The pagan Roman Empire, as mentioned earlier, executed hundreds of Christians for refusing to endorse the validity of its system of religion. There is no doubt from the sources that it did so in appalling ways, including burning alive, drowning and throwing them to hungry beasts; young girls were sent to brothels. All this was judicial atrocity, and in addition pagan mobs murdered some of the followers of Christ without any official sanction. By contrast, once in power the Christians tended to attack deities but spare humans: they destroyed images and wrecked holy places while leaving the worshippers alone. There is no recorded case of an execution of a person for following the older religions in the first two centuries of the Christian Roman Empire. Nor is there a certain one of the death of any at the hands of a Christian mob...Nor were heretics put to death, for the victorious sections of the early Church were only concerned to deprive them of places of worship, not of life."
Hutton, R. (1991). The Pagan Religions of the Ancient British Isles: Their Nature and Legacy. Blackwell.

13) "As we can see from the above, the Christian "religion" is based upon stolen material that has been twisted, warped, and distorted to manipulate, confuse and incite fear into humanity. It has taken the ORIGINAL GOD AND CREATOR OF HUMANITY EA/ENKI aka SATAN/LUCIFER and turned him into an assumed enemy of humanity. "We shall destroy God" -- The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Christianity has been used to blaspheme, ridicule and malign the Old Gods, create estrangement and enmity from legitimate deities of which it replaced with the false god "Yaweh/Jehova." In addition, this monstrous program is used as a tool to create a defenseless mentality; that of a slave, to psychologically disarm the Gentile populace into accepting communism, another Jewish brotherhood program."
Karl Marx must be rolling over in his grave. Communism was a tool of Christianity that originated in a Jewish botherhood program. Oh, and the Hebrew "adversary" as well as the Vulgate translation of a morning star deity is the true god. Right. I'm bored now.
 

NightDreamer

Follower of the Lightbringer
I'm listing these in order of those I identified by skimming through the complete pdf version of the site.
1) The etymological account of the Torah: "The Hebrew written "Five Books of Moses" also known as the "Pentateuch", along with the "Torah" were STOLEN and CORRUPTED from the Egyptian "TAROT."" Here's the etymology of Tarot:
"Etymology: < French tarot (also 16th cent. tarault , tarau ), < Italian *tarocco (plural tarocchi ): see taroc n." (OED)
and here's Torah: Etymology: Hebrew tōrāh ‘direction, instruction, doctrine, law’, < yārāh ‘to throw’, in Hiphil ‘to show, direct, instruct’. (OED)

2) "The fictitious Jewish "God" "Yaweh/Jehova's" name was inserted, replacing the names of many Gentile/Pagan Gods. The entity "Jehova" is fictitious. The name "Jehova" was stolen from the Roman God "Jove" for one."First, "Yahweh" is a modern spelling of the tetragrammaton. The Hebrew (and more generally Semitic) alphabets lacked vowels other than aleph. Thus the proper transliteration of Yahweh is YHWH. As for Jove: Etymology: < Latin Jov-em accusative (other oblique cases Jovis, Jovi, Jove) of Old Latin Jovis, for which in the classical period the compound Juppiter, Jūpiter (= Jovis-pater) was substituted; in Italian Giove." (OED, see also e.g., Buck's comparative grammar and the more recent reference comparative grammar by Sihler). Latin had no "j". This was a later scribal practice to distinguish the "y" sound of certain "i's" in Latin from the vowel "i" in Latin. Also, references to YHWH predate any Latin literature and can be found in Ugaritic texts.

3) "Mithra, the celestial intermediary between Ahura Mazda and Angra Manyu [Ahriman], has numerous striking parallels with the Nazarene 'Jesus Christ.'" This is drivel that has somehow managed to last repeated demonstrations of its obvious falsehood because apparently so many people would prefer to trust random websites than specialists in Greco-Roman religions or the Mythras cult more specifically (e.g., Beck, Burkert, Clauss, etc.). It's Frazer stripped of even the evidence he managed to muster.

4) Skimming down, most of the sources that the Bible is said to have stolen from don't exist apart from references to them and post-Biblical compositions.

5) "The resurrection is a common theme found in numerous completely different religions throughout the world, symbolic of a descent to the underworld and a later return. Mesopotamia: Ishtar's/Inanna's descent and return [she was resurrected from the dead], Egypt: Osiris, God of the Underworld was resurrected, Greece: Persephone's descent into the underworld and return, the list of resurrected Gods is extensive and is based a concept, not actual characters."
All wrong. Not only does one only find "numerous resurrections" in various religions by ignoring what resurrection means as well as glossing over the need to actual cite specific sources rather than popular mythology collections, but even these don't actually get us to "resurrection" (Osiris was reassembled except for his Penis, Persephone didn't die, and in these and other cases there are multiple versions some of which were influenced by Christianity: "A second impetus behind the growth of pagan mono theism was the influence of Christianity itself. Jan Bremmer has noted how, from the second century onwards, apparently new mystery religions appeared, devoted to gods who die and resurrect, such as Atis, or act as personal saviours, such as Mithras...G. W. Bowerstock has drawn attention to the fondness of late paganism for trinities"
Hutton, R. (2003). Witches, Druids, and King Arthur. Hambledon and London.

6) "THE NUMEROUS TRINITIES". See above.

7) "The Norse God Odin preceded Jesus the Christ." However, our sources about him were transmitted by Christian monks who Christianized German and Celtic myths.

8) "Below is a further list of Gods who hung from trees" basically none of whom did, but this is meaningless as apart from the idiom in Paul which refers to crucifixion as hanging upon a tree or pole, there isn't any tradition that holds Jesus was hanged on a tree.

9) "the word "Pagan" means 'Gentile.'" Actually, pāgānus meant "rustic" or "country dweller", and was equated with paganism because of Tertullian's De Corona Miites.

10) Most of the Eastern references gloss over the actually modern creation of what we regard to be Hinduism and Buddhism; see e.g., Clarke, J. J. (2002). Oriental Enlightenment: The Encounter between Asian and Western Thought. Routledge.; King, R. (1999). Orientalism and Religion: Post-Colonial Theory, India and ‘The Mystic East’. Routledge.; Pennington, B. K. (2005). Was Hinduism Invented?: Britons, Indians, and the Colonial Construction of Religion. Oxford University Press.; Duchesne, R. (2011). The Uniqueness of Western Civilization (Studies in Critical Social Sciences Vol. 28). Brill.

11) "Yet, in spite of this, the Christian Church murdered en masse, those accused of being witches, sorcerers and those of Pagan religions" They did murder tends of thousands of accused witches over a few centuries. Before that, they made pagan persecution of witchcraft illegal (the two largest witch trials known, during witch more accused witches were executed at one time than across all of Europe for a typical entire year during the "burning times", occurred in pre-Christian Rome).

12) "During the reign of the Roman Emperor Constantine CE 306-337 the doctrines of the Christian church were regarded as the foundation of law.4 Heretics [persons who opposed church teachings, or who were even accused of such] were sought out, tortured and eventually murdered". In reality, "The pagan Roman Empire, as mentioned earlier, executed hundreds of Christians for refusing to endorse the validity of its system of religion. There is no doubt from the sources that it did so in appalling ways, including burning alive, drowning and throwing them to hungry beasts; young girls were sent to brothels. All this was judicial atrocity, and in addition pagan mobs murdered some of the followers of Christ without any official sanction. By contrast, once in power the Christians tended to attack deities but spare humans: they destroyed images and wrecked holy places while leaving the worshippers alone. There is no recorded case of an execution of a person for following the older religions in the first two centuries of the Christian Roman Empire. Nor is there a certain one of the death of any at the hands of a Christian mob...Nor were heretics put to death, for the victorious sections of the early Church were only concerned to deprive them of places of worship, not of life."
Hutton, R. (1991). The Pagan Religions of the Ancient British Isles: Their Nature and Legacy. Blackwell.

13) "As we can see from the above, the Christian "religion" is based upon stolen material that has been twisted, warped, and distorted to manipulate, confuse and incite fear into humanity. It has taken the ORIGINAL GOD AND CREATOR OF HUMANITY EA/ENKI aka SATAN/LUCIFER and turned him into an assumed enemy of humanity. "We shall destroy God" -- The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Christianity has been used to blaspheme, ridicule and malign the Old Gods, create estrangement and enmity from legitimate deities of which it replaced with the false god "Yaweh/Jehova." In addition, this monstrous program is used as a tool to create a defenseless mentality; that of a slave, to psychologically disarm the Gentile populace into accepting communism, another Jewish brotherhood program."
Karl Marx must be rolling over in his grave. Communism was a tool of Christianity that originated in a Jewish botherhood program. Oh, and the Hebrew "adversary" as well as the Vulgate translation of a morning star deity is the true god. Right. I'm bored now.

.........................................................................You really need to learn history that is untainted by religious beliefs.............
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
I'm listing these in order of those I identified by skimming through the complete pdf version of the site.
1) The etymological account of the Torah: "The Hebrew written "Five Books of Moses" also known as the "Pentateuch", along with the "Torah" were STOLEN and CORRUPTED from the Egyptian "TAROT."" Here's the etymology of Tarot:
"Etymology: < French tarot (also 16th cent. tarault , tarau ), < Italian *tarocco (plural tarocchi ): see taroc n." (OED)
and here's Torah: Etymology: Hebrew tōrāh ‘direction, instruction, doctrine, law’, < yārāh ‘to throw’, in Hiphil ‘to show, direct, instruct’. (OED)

2) "The fictitious Jewish "God" "Yaweh/Jehova's" name was inserted, replacing the names of many Gentile/Pagan Gods. The entity "Jehova" is fictitious. The name "Jehova" was stolen from the Roman God "Jove" for one."First, "Yahweh" is a modern spelling of the tetragrammaton. The Hebrew (and more generally Semitic) alphabets lacked vowels other than aleph. Thus the proper transliteration of Yahweh is YHWH. As for Jove: Etymology: < Latin Jov-em accusative (other oblique cases Jovis, Jovi, Jove) of Old Latin Jovis, for which in the classical period the compound Juppiter, Jūpiter (= Jovis-pater) was substituted; in Italian Giove." (OED, see also e.g., Buck's comparative grammar and the more recent reference comparative grammar by Sihler). Latin had no "j". This was a later scribal practice to distinguish the "y" sound of certain "i's" in Latin from the vowel "i" in Latin. Also, references to YHWH predate any Latin literature and can be found in Ugaritic texts.

3) "Mithra, the celestial intermediary between Ahura Mazda and Angra Manyu [Ahriman], has numerous striking parallels with the Nazarene 'Jesus Christ.'" This is drivel that has somehow managed to last repeated demonstrations of its obvious falsehood because apparently so many people would prefer to trust random websites than specialists in Greco-Roman religions or the Mythras cult more specifically (e.g., Beck, Burkert, Clauss, etc.). It's Frazer stripped of even the evidence he managed to muster.

4) Skimming down, most of the sources that the Bible is said to have stolen from don't exist apart from references to them and post-Biblical compositions.

5) "The resurrection is a common theme found in numerous completely different religions throughout the world, symbolic of a descent to the underworld and a later return. Mesopotamia: Ishtar's/Inanna's descent and return [she was resurrected from the dead], Egypt: Osiris, God of the Underworld was resurrected, Greece: Persephone's descent into the underworld and return, the list of resurrected Gods is extensive and is based a concept, not actual characters."
All wrong. Not only does one only find "numerous resurrections" in various religions by ignoring what resurrection means as well as glossing over the need to actual cite specific sources rather than popular mythology collections, but even these don't actually get us to "resurrection" (Osiris was reassembled except for his Penis, Persephone didn't die, and in these and other cases there are multiple versions some of which were influenced by Christianity: "A second impetus behind the growth of pagan mono theism was the influence of Christianity itself. Jan Bremmer has noted how, from the second century onwards, apparently new mystery religions appeared, devoted to gods who die and resurrect, such as Atis, or act as personal saviours, such as Mithras...G. W. Bowerstock has drawn attention to the fondness of late paganism for trinities"
Hutton, R. (2003). Witches, Druids, and King Arthur. Hambledon and London.

6) "THE NUMEROUS TRINITIES". See above.

7) "The Norse God Odin preceded Jesus the Christ." However, our sources about him were transmitted by Christian monks who Christianized German and Celtic myths.

8) "Below is a further list of Gods who hung from trees" basically none of whom did, but this is meaningless as apart from the idiom in Paul which refers to crucifixion as hanging upon a tree or pole, there isn't any tradition that holds Jesus was hanged on a tree.

9) "the word "Pagan" means 'Gentile.'" Actually, pāgānus meant "rustic" or "country dweller", and was equated with paganism because of Tertullian's De Corona Miites.

10) Most of the Eastern references gloss over the actually modern creation of what we regard to be Hinduism and Buddhism; see e.g., Clarke, J. J. (2002). Oriental Enlightenment: The Encounter between Asian and Western Thought. Routledge.; King, R. (1999). Orientalism and Religion: Post-Colonial Theory, India and ‘The Mystic East’. Routledge.; Pennington, B. K. (2005). Was Hinduism Invented?: Britons, Indians, and the Colonial Construction of Religion. Oxford University Press.; Duchesne, R. (2011). The Uniqueness of Western Civilization (Studies in Critical Social Sciences Vol. 28). Brill.

11) "Yet, in spite of this, the Christian Church murdered en masse, those accused of being witches, sorcerers and those of Pagan religions" They did murder tends of thousands of accused witches over a few centuries. Before that, they made pagan persecution of witchcraft illegal (the two largest witch trials known, during witch more accused witches were executed at one time than across all of Europe for a typical entire year during the "burning times", occurred in pre-Christian Rome).

12) "During the reign of the Roman Emperor Constantine CE 306-337 the doctrines of the Christian church were regarded as the foundation of law.4 Heretics [persons who opposed church teachings, or who were even accused of such] were sought out, tortured and eventually murdered". In reality, "The pagan Roman Empire, as mentioned earlier, executed hundreds of Christians for refusing to endorse the validity of its system of religion. There is no doubt from the sources that it did so in appalling ways, including burning alive, drowning and throwing them to hungry beasts; young girls were sent to brothels. All this was judicial atrocity, and in addition pagan mobs murdered some of the followers of Christ without any official sanction. By contrast, once in power the Christians tended to attack deities but spare humans: they destroyed images and wrecked holy places while leaving the worshippers alone. There is no recorded case of an execution of a person for following the older religions in the first two centuries of the Christian Roman Empire. Nor is there a certain one of the death of any at the hands of a Christian mob...Nor were heretics put to death, for the victorious sections of the early Church were only concerned to deprive them of places of worship, not of life."
Hutton, R. (1991). The Pagan Religions of the Ancient British Isles: Their Nature and Legacy. Blackwell.

13) "As we can see from the above, the Christian "religion" is based upon stolen material that has been twisted, warped, and distorted to manipulate, confuse and incite fear into humanity. It has taken the ORIGINAL GOD AND CREATOR OF HUMANITY EA/ENKI aka SATAN/LUCIFER and turned him into an assumed enemy of humanity. "We shall destroy God" -- The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Christianity has been used to blaspheme, ridicule and malign the Old Gods, create estrangement and enmity from legitimate deities of which it replaced with the false god "Yaweh/Jehova." In addition, this monstrous program is used as a tool to create a defenseless mentality; that of a slave, to psychologically disarm the Gentile populace into accepting communism, another Jewish brotherhood program."
Karl Marx must be rolling over in his grave. Communism was a tool of Christianity that originated in a Jewish botherhood program. Oh, and the Hebrew "adversary" as well as the Vulgate translation of a morning star deity is the true god. Right. I'm bored now.
Just a side note on #2...aleph is not a vowel. Another strike against the website.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
.........................................................................You really need to learn history that is untainted by religious beliefs.............
1) I'm not religious.
2) I generally go to Hutton when I can for a reason: he was raised pagan and is either an atheist or agnostic.
3) Unfortunately, neurotic tendencies and a hatred for translations meant that even though modern languages are barely related to my field, I still not only took the time to learn (read) Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Latin, German, French, Navajo, Hittite, and to a lesser extent other languages, I actually took the time as an undergrad to add ancient Greek & Latin as an additional major. Apart from being an exercise in futility, the point is that I can read the primary sources myself. Also, thanks to access to databases like the TLC, TLL, JSTOR, and various databases of papyri and other electronic versions of primary sources (as well as the printed volumes I own), I actually HAVE the relevant sources in e.g., Greek & Latin among other dead languages to see for myself the nature of religious practices in antiquity.
4) Most of the history hear comes from classicists and classics, not biblical studies, and even biblical studies has been relatively free of doctrinal biases for the past two centuries. After all, the "historical Jesus quest" was basically initiated by Reimarus to under mine Christianity, the responses by the Christian intellectuals of the early 19th century were destroyed by Strauss, and the attempt to restore Christ via the liberal lives (reaching their epitome in the work of Renan) were demolished by Schweitzer. The kind of idiocy concerning dying and resurrecting gods and so forth vomited forth by this site is a sad rehash of late 19th century and early 20th century scholarly and amateurish attempts by those like Frazer which were heavily criticized for their problems at the time and remain only due to the ignorance of those who tell others to study history because they've read a few websites and some popular books (if that).
5) Feel free to provide the historical accounts you seem to think exist that are not "untainted by religious belief" and aren't written by some moron whose historical knowledge and academic proficiency is limited to ripping of other websites, misquoting popular sources, and claiming that communism is a Christian tool developed by "the Jews" as reflected in this anti-Semitic, paranoid-delusional website.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Just a side note on #2...aleph is not a vowel. Another strike against the website.
"Vowels are speech sounds produced without interruption to the passage of air through the vocal tract."
McGregor, W. (2009). Linguistics: An Introduction. Contiuum.
I could quote from a number of other introductory linguistics texts or find literature in linguistics which doesn't assume this basic familiarity with the definition of vowels, but I hope this won't be necessary.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
"Joy of Satan Ministries?" Srrsly? :rolleyes:

One doesn't have to dig through the garbage to assure oneself it's garbage. The name on the garbage scow should be enough to tip one off.
 
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